VFL 2021 VFL list changes & discussion

[TradeDraft]

Who's in? Eight-team VFL season is on, start date revealed

Victoria gets the go-ahead for state competition to take place

www.afl.com.au

Great news for VFL standalone club fans. Wouldn’t be surprised if the new 8 team VFL continues on in 2021. Maybe with the additional team or two like Preston

Reduced footy dept spending to come makes it unlikely in my opinion that we see AFL clubs field VFL teams next year

There some doubt as the Northern AFL Teams have asked to join the VFL in 2021

 

[whiskeytown]

There some doubt as the Northern AFL Teams have asked to join the VFL in 2021

They’d have to base themselves down here the whole season to make it viable

 

[pablo disco bar]

They’d have to base themselves down here the whole season to make it viable

Carn the seagulls


We go

 

[TradeDraft]

Carn the seagulls


We go

Go Sandy and Frankston

 

[Jen2310]

I'll go for port melb. Closest to me, other than coburb.

 

[Robroy22]

Go the Borough

 

[jackcass]

Carn the seagulls


We go

Go Pies!

 

[barrackers]

Hustwaite signs with Casey, if he wants to get drafted it's probably a better option than local footy.

 

[TradeDraft]

Hustwaite signs with Casey, if he wants to get drafted it's probably a better option than local footy.

So would they come back to Collingwood for next season?

 

[manicpie]

So would they come back to Collingwood for next season?

Maybe they have that option. Campbell Hustwaite is no super star, but a servicable VFL player

 

[TradeDraft]

Maybe they have that option. Campbell Hustwaite is no super star, but a servicable VFL player

Well we don't really have any Superstar Players on our VFL List

 

[manicpie]

Well we don't really have any Superstar Players on our VFL List

Spot on, we seem to have a fairly average VFL list, we have some that are only just suburban footballers really, I wonder why the club doesn't try and get some more quality in the VFL, they seem to be happy to just use it as a development ground for the AFL players

 

[TradeDraft]

Spot on, we seem to have a fairly average VFL list, we have some that are only just suburban footballers really, I wonder why the club doesn't try and get some more quality in the VFL, they seem to be happy to just use it as a development ground for the AFL players

My Guess as they don't want it to stop the Develpoment of the AFL Listed Players

 

[Jen2310]

AFL clubs could have three options for reserves teams in 2021: fielding their own teams, aligning with a current VFL club or even spreading listed players among more than one VFL club.

The AFL will definitely allow teams to field their own reserves sides, with an alignment – such as Hawthorn's Box Hill arrangement and Melbourne's with Casey Demons – also an expected option in what is likely to be to an expanded eastern seaboard competition with the Swans, Giants, Suns and Lions fielding sides.

The AFL may allow teams to settle on the model that suits the individual clubs. Hawthorn, Melbourne and St Kilda could stick with alignments (St Kilda are aligned with Sandringham in the VFL), but other Victorian teams could have the option of spreading the players who are not getting a game into at least two VFL teams.

Some Victorian clubs have made noises about not fielding a fully funded reserves team and instead playing "scratch matches" between one another – as the clubs are this year with no VFL competition – because they feel they will struggle to field a proper reserves team under the AFL's soft cap of just $6.2 million.

But the AFL is highly unlikely to buckle to the clubs that want extra money in the football cap for reserves, arguably a blow to the richer teams that have the resources to field their own sides in a more lavish fashion.

The second-tier competition cannot be finalised until the AFL settles on list sizes for 2021, with a reduction in lists on the cards.

The AFL view is that clubs could have the opportunity to choose their own preferred model for reserves, and that if they do not wish to field an AFL reserves team – as the northern teams likely will – the Victorian clubs can either form an alignment with VFL clubs or even spread players into two or more of those sides.

The model of spreading AFL players into more than one VFL team has existed in the recent past, North Melbourne having divided the players who don't play at senior level between Werribee and North Ballarat at one stage, while the Saints had one player at Frankston even when fully aligned with Sandringham; this model was once used in the SANFL and WAFL with the Crows, Port Adelaide, West Coast and Fremantle.

The standalone VFL teams – Port Melbourne, Williamstown, Werribee, Coburg and Frankston – plus Box Hill, Sandringham and Casey will have the opportunity to participate in the expanded reserves or VFL-plus-northern states competition next year.

Richmond, Collingwood, Essendon, Geelong, North Melbourne and the Western Bulldogs (as Footscray) all fielded their own reserves teams in the VFL last year, while St Kilda, Hawthorn, Melbourne and Carlton were aligned. VFL sources said the Northern Blues, with whom Carlton ended their association earlier this year, have not given up hope of resuming in the revamped competition next year.

Field your own, align, spread: AFL's three options for reserves teams

AFL clubs could have three options for reserves teams in 2021: fielding their own, aligning with a VFL club or even spreading players to multiple clubs.

www.theage.com.au

 

[whiskeytown]

As I was saying elsewhere on Bigfooty the other day... I dunno how with reduced footy dept expenditure... how the nsw and Qld teams will participate in an eastern seaboard comp... flying their reserve players around constantly. That’s very costly.

Either have a national reserve comp and the AFL fund it properly... or let the VFL and NEAFL separately resume in 2021.

 

[Mkcaptain]

Woah

 

[TradeDraft]

Woah

So what does that mean for Collingwood?

 

[Jen2310]

Its a smart idea.

Club killed off without notice as AFL ditches entire competition in massive footy revamp

Club killed off without notice as AFL ditches entire competition in massive footy revamp

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[whiskeytown]

Woah

So a 14 team VFL (15 teams minus withdrawn NM VFL team) gets an additional 9 NEAFL teams...

the comp is an eastern seaboard comp. But it will be too expensive to fly clubs interstate constantly. So either

1) teams fly up and down the coast and play carnivals of condensed schedule

But...

The standalone NEAFL teams just won’t have the resources. Neither will the standalone VFL teams if it means flying interstate.

Neither will the semi professional footballers in these comps who all have day jobs and just can’t take off weeks to play footy interstate

So only the AFL teams participate and you end up with an East Coast AFL reserves comp essentially

Or...

2) The comp is Melbourne based

But...

That eliminates all but the 4 AFL teams in the NEAFL.

And how will the northern AFL clubs manage their teams within a reduced footy dept cap... if they are flying reserve players back and forward to Melbourne?

The whole thing just sounds like a patchwork competition. The AFL making up policy on the run.

 

[Jen2310]

In other news...

 

[Jen2310]

THE VFL will expand next year to take in the NEAFL.
After weeks of speculation about the structure of second-tier football, the AFL announced this afternoon that the NEAFL competition would be absorbed into the Victorian state league in 2021.

AFL clubs in Victoria, Queensland and NSW will be given three options for next year: to field their own teams, strike an alignment or spread their players across multiple clubs.

The NEAFL’s nine clubs — Brisbane, Gold Coast, GWS and Sydney as well as Aspley Hornets, Canberra Demons, Redland Bombers, Southport Sharks and Sydney University — will be invited to join the VFL.

But sources indicated the AFL did not expect them all to take up the offer.

The AFL said second-tier football in 2021 would be a “year of transition’’ reflecting the impact of a reduced AFL soft cap, the level of AFL club investment and resources allocated to men’s and women’s football programs, any Player CBA revisions and any associated impact on player list sizes.

It said it would work towards ensuring greater alignment across all second-tier competitions and increase the alignment with talent programs in each state and territory.

The model for second-tier women’s football in Victoria is under review but it’s believed the VFLW season may be brought forward to operate at the same time as the AFLW.

The AFL is also making changes to the elite junior pathway, with the NAB League Boys and Girls to go from Under 16 and Under 18 levels to Under 17 and Under 19 in 2021.

The national championships will also go to Under 19s.

The draft age will remain at 18 for the AFL and AFLW competitions.

The AFL’s talent pathway team will also assume control of the Victorian Next Generation Academies (NGAs), targeting Indigenous and multicultural players.

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[jackcass]

Gee, it’ll be a shame to lose the NT development pathway through the Thunder.

 

[vicparksfinest]

I still don't understand how that is going to work with teams flying up and down the coast? or is it saying stand alone clubs like port Melbourne HAVE to align with an AFL club to stay in the VFL as its just a reserves comp?

 

[TradeDraft]

Gee, it’ll be a shame to lose the NT development pathway through the Thunder.

So the Academies are Dead?

 

[jackcass]

So the Academies are Dead?

Thunder were a NEAFL side based in Darwin. Men’s and women’s teams. Nothing to do with the academies.