2019-20 Big Bash League

[The Speaker]

You know why Chris Gayle doesn't play in the BBL.

And all his WI compatriots?

 

[Admiral Byng]

You know why Chris Gayle doesn't play in the BBL.

OK, forget gayle. Look at some of the other bigger name internationals: Russell, Cottrell, Mendis, Amla, Perera, Fernando. Plus just about every top level Pakistani player which would add another 10 nmaes to that list. Plus most of the better Afghanistan players.

It would make a significant improvement to the BBL if we got some of those choosing to play here rather than in Bangladesh, plus if we had some Australian players available for it more often.

Even Shane Watson is playing over there.

 

[Rich]

We seem to hold the BBL in competition with the Bangladesh Premier League. They seem to be a bigger drawcard for internationals than us, for example Chris Gayle is playing over there right now.

Sad to say it, but if we want to grow the BBL we have to increase the number of internationals. Which means growing the salary cap and the money involved. Also means changing the summer schedule completely so the Australian test stars get to play a decent chunk of it.

Yep, if they are serious about it, they need all Aus players available for it. In addition, 3 international players for each side would immediately lift the standard.

The major problem of course is that numerous countries have their cricket season at the same time, making the vast majority of players unavailable. How can it be taken seriously when even the best limited overs players in Australia aren’t even playing?

 

[peternorth]

Dan Christian has played for 4 clubs.

brisbane
hobart
melb renegs

 

[Agent93]

The major problem of course is that numerous countries have their cricket season at the same time, making the vast majority of players unavailable. How can it be taken seriously when even the best limited overs players in Australia aren’t even playing?

I'd advocate that other countries aren't the problem. CA in conjunction with the ICC allocates far more time to fixturing the national side compared with other countries which has a twofold effect:
1. The best Australian players are not available
2. There are less dates available to the BBL to avoid conflict with other portions of the Australian domestic and international cricket schedule.

Comparing it to the BPL which runs at almost the same time, top players are paid roughly the same amount for the tournaments (~$150k USD), however the BBL is two weeks longer this time through. Andre Russell was quoted as saying the BPL is shorter and more fun; he's also probably comparing it to last season's debacle.

 

[Phone]

Something else to consider, the amount of BBL clubs a player is allowed to have played with. Cap it at 3 maybe? Would mean clubs are more loyal to players or we see more young players coming through the (BBL) system.

no, this should not be considered. the only time this should be considered is when we are thinking about the worst ideas that have been put forward, for that it can be considered

 

[peternorth]

I'd advocate that other countries aren't the problem. CA in conjunction with the ICC allocates far more time to fixturing the national side compared with other countries which has a twofold effect:
1. The best Australian players are not available
2. There are less dates available to the BBL to avoid conflict with other portions of the Australian domestic and international cricket schedule.

Comparing it to the BPL which runs at almost the same time, top players are paid roughly the same amount for the tournaments (~$150k USD), however the BBL is two weeks longer this time through. Andre Russell was quoted as saying the BPL is shorter and more fun; he's also probably comparing it to last season's debacle.

how many times do the bpl teams play each other? compared to the bbl?

 

[Agent93]

how many times do the bpl teams play each other? compared to the bbl?

Both do twice each, 12 game reg season in BPL vs 14 in the BBL.

BPL is fixtured over 5 phases where all teams play in one city, then move to the next one similar to the Domestic ODI fixture. They literally played in 3 stadiums this time through.

 

[Coasters7]

Looks like the guys fixturing the AFL are the same ones handing out the games for BBL. How a side can fly from Perth to Hobart, back to Perth, fly to Melbourne before returning to Perth again, all in the space of 9 days, is ridiculous. 5 games in 9 days + 16 hour flight time.

Surely it can’t be that hard to get the two Perth games back to back and then have a road trip for a couple of games.

 

[grimlock]

Rauf selected for Pakistan T20 playing against Bangladesh Jan 24-Jan 27.

Rauf’s extraordinary rise to the international stage

Haris Rauf’s incredible rise through the ranks has been capped off by selection in the Pakistan T20 squad for their upcoming series against Bangladesh in Lahore, starting January 24.

www.melbournestars.com.au

He'll miss the Stars last game, and maybe the one before that but should be back for finals.

 

[corbies]

I'd advocate that other countries aren't the problem. CA in conjunction with the ICC allocates far more time to fixturing the national side compared with other countries which has a twofold effect:
1. The best Australian players are not available
2. There are less dates available to the BBL to avoid conflict with other portions of the Australian domestic and international cricket schedule.

I find it difficult to reconcile the best Australian players not being involved in the Big Bash being an issue but at the same time when they all play together for Australia in a T20 the general consensus is that it is s**t.

 

[happy_eagle]

I find it difficult to reconcile the best Australian players not being involved in the Big Bash being an issue but at the same time when they all play together for Australia in a T20 the general consensus is that it is s**t.

I think the core interest of domestic T20 leagues is seeing them play AGAINST each other.

 

[Agent93]

I think the core interest of domestic T20 leagues is seeing them play AGAINST each other.

I think it's also the league aspect as opposed to 1-3 random matches that don't really mean anything to the casual fan.

 

[Admiral Byng]

I find it difficult to reconcile the best Australian players not being involved in the Big Bash being an issue but at the same time when they all play together for Australia in a T20 the general consensus is that it is s**t.

Stand-alone T20 series of 2 or 3 matches between the same 2 sides are generally pointless. Nobody cares or remembers who won the series.

The T20 format works best with a multi-team competition with a ladder and finals to win the tournament.

 

[carnthemlions]

I think the biggest problem at the moment is the number matches that quickly turn into complete non-events. Who wants to pay to watch a match that's a good chance of being all but over less than half way through? If one side makes a big total there's a good chance the opposition won't make it to 120, and half the sides in the comp are capable of that even when they bat first. It's hard to take the comp all that seriously when morons like boof clearly don't are there are only two competent sides in it.

 

[hamohawk1]

Would anyone be opposed to reducing the number of teams back to the State v State version of the Big Bash, further reduce the season to 5-6 weeks. Start Dec 19-20 (around the start of School Holidays) and end it Australia Day weekend. Shortened comp with less teams allows better talent dispensation, and place some genuine rivalries (the Sydney and Melbourne derby seem very faux derbies).

Otherwise they need to get more top line talent playing from Aus and Abroad, remarkable how its dropped off in recent years.

 

[Cleavy]

they're never going back to a State comp, just accept it.

 

[Van_Dyke]

not a bad player to bring to replace a departing international

 

[peternorth]

not a bad player to bring to replace a departing international

I think that's also a negative in that players come and go. Did anyone think morkey was going to come in this season? There's little traction lost, players coming and going

 

[Agent93]

not a bad player to bring to replace a departing international

Is that another head on Bancroft's body?

 

[Tundrawolf]

not a bad player to bring to replace a departing international

From memory we signed his brother Alby Morkel up for BBL 02 or 03 but international duties at the time prevented him from ever becoming available.

 

[Hamingja]

Did he retire from SA to play county or just retire?

 

[Rich]

He’s an Australian resident these days, married that journo who’s name escapes me right now.
Remember reading that he hopes to qualify as an Aussie down the track.

 

[Kyptastic]

He’s an Australian resident these days, married that journo who’s name escapes me right now.
Remember reading that he hopes to qualify as an Aussie down the track.

His permanent residency potential comes through in time for next BBL season

 

[ioppolo]

He's 37 next year, don't know how well his body will handle it