List Mgmt. 2019/2020 Trade/Delist/Re-sign predictions/opinions

GreyCrow

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I get he can't say anything else but I found it interesting this morning that Eddie said that Don Pyke has told him he is a required player.

I don't really see how that could possibly be the case. We all love Eddie but we have carried him this year and as popular as he is off field I think our list would be in better shape without him.

I guess what I am saying is while we can't push him out the door because of his contract we are crazy if we are not encouraging him to look at opportunities for next year and post football.
Pyke said the same thing about Cameron
Club is scared of the backlash. Even if they knew it's the right thing for Eddie and the club that he explores options elsewhere the club won't entertain it. We aren't Hawthorn. Also when you have imbeciles like Stephen Rowe on the radio saying they will lead the charge with pitchforks if Betts is traded you just know he will be not be going anywhere. The club will likely offer Betts another 1 year contract on top of the current deal. The ironic thing is that Rowe is the first to complain about our ageing list but is also the first to lose his s**t if the club tries to do anything about it. Fools like Rowe add to the clubs problems.
Rowe said the same thing about Cameron
 

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mattymac

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A scout for the Eastern Rangers told me back in June that if we were out of the top 2 then we'd look to trade the pick for multiple picks. My guess would be they don't see a huge dropoff in talent from the 4-6 range to the 12-15 area.
Ogilvie mentioned in the R2D podcast that Reid is out talking to clubs about our pick
 

Cleric

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He may well do that but we're talking list management, club drafting strategy here not individual player talent at one NAB League club.....Would surprise me if that kind of discussion would take place with a Eastern Ranges club scout.....from my personal experience at games club recruiters play their cards pretty close to their chest and with good reason.
The kind of discussion you're talking would generally only take place with the List Manager [Justin Reid] and the Head recruiter [Hamish Ogilvie].

Whilst the Eastern Ranges are in good form this year it's more a team effort with them as I can't see too many of their players figuring in the first couple of rounds in this draft.
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Ogilvie mentioned in the R2D podcast that Reid is out talking to clubs about our pick
I imagine at this point the club is going to play out a ton of different scenarios with the pick(s), that'll probably be where Binuk Kodiuwakku will be doing a ton of work at the moment. By the time the draft roles around they'd probably be 100% locked in to what they want to do, if they haven't already acted on it prior. Go to the clubs now and that gives you time to plan out everything.
 

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Ogilvie mentioned in the R2D podcast that Reid is out talking to clubs about our pick
And that would be as much about trading up as down for multiple picks given we are no longer assured of one of Anderson or Rowell, or even ways we can target a player we really want i.e. Lukosius say. Or even parcel up a player currently on our list we want to move on with a pick? i.e. Jenkins possibly?
 

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Been suggested by Tom Morris that we are open to trading our pick around #3 as we want a quick rebuild. Not sure if that means we are looking for players or 2 x 1st rounders.
I think getting in quantity (rather than quality) is being considered :disappointed:



AFL trades 2019: Adelaide, St Kilda both set to put top draft picks on the table in trade period [www.foxsports.com.au]

Adelaide has thrown Pick 3 on the table in a bold play to restock elite junior talent in just one national draft and rejuvenate its ageing list.

The Crows met with clubs late last week at Docklands café 90 Secondi as part of the annual prelude to October’s trade window. Discussions ranged from five minutes to half-an-hour.

Foxfooty.com.au understands Adelaide was crystal clear in its messaging regarding the draft pick obtained from Carlton last November.

If the ladder remains as it is and the AFL does not afford Gold Coast a top-end priority pick, the Crows will head to the trade period with Picks 3, 21 and 28.

But their first round selection - plus later ones - have already been shopped around and will be sold for the right price.

Last year, St Kilda was willing to part with Pick 4 in exchange for two selections in the top eight, but nothing came to fruition.

Although rival clubs told foxfooty.com.au the Crows are open to any offers, it’s unlikely they will place a disproportionately high price on the valuable pick.

St Kilda is expected to follow a similar philosophy during the trade period and is said to be open to trading its first-round pick (currently No. 6) for two selections between approximately 10 and 18.

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Clubs used the informal catch-ups last week as an opportunity to get a preliminary handle on what each list management team is thinking two months out from the trade period.

Expected rookie elevations, retirements and trade opportunities were floated across the board, while clubs also forecast how many selections they will use in November’s national draft.

One club official said the process – which has continued this week among a few clubs – is a bit like “speed dating”.

Most clubs send two or more officials, such as a list manager, national recruiting manager and football boss. The format is used as a vehicle for clubs to get a “lay of the land”, said another official who was present for discussions.

Adelaide is expected to be one of the most active clubs in the trade period and had no hesitation in telling rivals of its openness to deal-making.

Of the Crows’ 10 players aged 29 or over at the start of next season, five are contracted beyond 2020.

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Mutineer

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Club recuiters dont say s**t to anyone about who they like or dont. No way they tell a random guy at Eastern Ranges. And im not sure TAC cup teams have recuiters anyway.
Not sure you'd call them scouts but they certainly have guys that watch a lot of school/local footy and put forward kids for the NAB League teams pre-season camps to sort the truly talented ones from the also rans. But as for anymore than that I'd be very, very doubtful.
 
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If you want a laugh, re read the 2017 draft thread. The amount of people saying how CC was going to be easy to replace, and that Gibbs was going to be a gun for the next fours years was crazy. Even some saying how they couldn't believe Norf let Gibson go.
Lots of egg on lots of faces over there.
 

dayton

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I'd be going hard for Lukosius. Pick 3 + Greenwood + more if they want it. It'll be worth it.
I reckon that's what this pick swap article is about. Make GC think their best return (pick 3 + extras) won't be there.

Then on day one of the trade period trade out their 2020 first round pick and Jenkins for Fantasia and Francis.

No 2020 first for the Luko trade next year... better make a deal now.
 

The Texan

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I reckon that's what this pick swap article is about. Make GC think their best return (pick 3 + extras) won't be there.

Then on day one of the trade period trade out their 2020 first round pick and Jenkins for Fantasia and Francis.

No 2020 first for the Luko trade next year... better make a deal now.
Then Port come in next year with their first.. can you imagine


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I hope this story isn't true for us
Re-sign - CEY, Douglas, Kelly, Greenwood, Keath MacKay
Delist - Otten

Rinse and repeat
Those AFL style summary articles are always laughable....
 
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