2019 3rd Ashes Test 22-27 August Headingley

Who will win the 3rd test?


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woota

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Please don't pick Marsh. We've been down this road how many times, and it hasn't worked.
Who else have they got? All our batsmen are talentless hacks other than smith and labrat. Warner looks to be finished, being dismissed for less than 10 runs in 5 out of his 6 innings.
 

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I wouldn't pick Marsh for the 4th test. I would still have Harris open, and drop Wade for Smith.

But Marsh has scored runs when asked, so I can't fault him on that.
 

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The 4th test is gonna be fascinating. I get the sense the poms have played their GF and might find it hard to back it up. But, the question also exists whether we are broken or can we bounce back?

Gonna be a great 1st session
Nope. This series has 1981 written all over it. Australia win the first test. Rain ruins the second which ends in a draw. Then the third test - at Headingley - where England win the unwinnable. Or rather, Australia lose the unloseable. It happens on the back of a blistering century from a controversial all-rounder.

Any of this sounding familiar?
 

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Nope. This series has 1981 written all over it. Australia win the first test. Rain ruins the second which ends in a draw. Then the third test - at Headingley - where England win the unwinnable. Or rather, Australia lose the unloseable. It happens on the back of a blistering century from a controversial all-rounder.

Any of this sounding familiar?
Ben Stokes secretly captained England for the 1st two tests?
 

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Nope. This series has 1981 written all over it. Australia win the first test. Rain ruins the second which ends in a draw. Then the third test - at Headingley - where England win the unwinnable. Or rather, Australia lose the unloseable. It happens on the back of a blistering century from a controversial all-rounder.

Any of this sounding familiar?
ROFL. IMO smith will be the difference between the 2 sides. The aussies will win the next 2 tests if he plays in them. When the series is over people will look back and say the poms only won that third test because smith didn't play.
 

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I'd agree there's not a very strong case for bringing in Marsh but he must surely be getting close to being superior to at least one of our batsmen on their current form.
Not to mention he offers something with ball in hand.

For the most part, Marsh has been head in hands in the test arena. I think that's what most of the negativity is based on in here.

It's like people can't get their heads around the fact that cricketers can improve as they mature and gain experience. Its ******* nuts.

If Marsh can knock out a 30-40(Or occupy the crease for a team mate to score) and take a couple of wickets, he has done his job for the most part.

Inspired selection? Hardly - But probably earned a crack with MOTM honours against Derby.

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Please don't pick Marsh. We've been down this road how many times, and it hasn't worked.
His performance has been too good to not be selected and he has performed well under pressure before.

Khawaja OUT: As much as I like him he's not doing enough for the team
Smith IN: Obvious choice, should be fine now and recovered from the knock
Wade or Head OUT (But not both): Like Khawaja they're not performing enough, but one needs to stay to hold up the middle order
Marsh IN: He's delivered before and has performed well in situations like this before
 

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His performance has been too good to not be selected and he has performed well under pressure before.
A big difference between performing against a second rate county side and performing in a test match where you're facing the likes of Broad and Archer.

I couldn't see Mitch Marsh surviving long against them when better batsmen than him have struggled.
 

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There's not a huge difference between 1st & 2nd Division county cricket. They all played in the same league until 2000 when they introduced the two division format. Joe Root earnt his Test Cap from a 2nd Division county side as did Joe Denly. Jofra Archer comes from the Division 2 Sussex side, Stuart Broad from 2nd Division Leicestershire and the list goes on.
 
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So Marsh is the next Starc then with some people here? His credentials rise when he's out of the side?

Mitch Marsh is not a Test batsman, bowling a handful of overs per innings does not change that. If we're not confident in Wade we should've gone with a pure batsman outside the squad.
 

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So Marsh is the next Starc then with some people here? His credentials rise when he's out of the side?

Mitch Marsh is not a Test batsman, bowling a handful of overs per innings does not change that. If we're not confident in Wade we should've gone with a pure batsman outside the squad.
Well, he just got motm in the last tour game. Should we base selection off a vibe instead of results?

The odds are in favour of Marsh on a number of levels-
- MOTM a couple of days ago
- Our test selectors have a hard on for all rounders
- Langer is Western Australian and has coached him domestically.
- Wade isn't rated by the selectors and has played 1 good innings and failed in 5

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the team looks okay .....the issue atm is our left handers have not got a clue against the poms...they are really struggling...3RH in the top six looks good

marnus deserves a crack at 3....smith no brainer at 4...head they like.....Marsh gives us the defensive option with starc in the side

side is balanced looks good...... I dont mind usman as an opener....they could go harris....but I reckon the will give usman one last shot
Not sure about Starc really not
 

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Well, he just got motm in the last tour game. Should we base selection off a vibe instead of results?

The odds are in favour of Marsh on a number of levels-
- MOTM a couple of days ago
- Our test selectors have a hard on for all rounders
- Langer is Western Australian and has coached him domestically.
- Wade isn't rated by the selectors and has played 1 good innings and failed in 5

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He averages 25 after 31 Tests. I don't care that he scored a 70 odd in a game that wasn't even first class standard, he's had numerous gifted opportunities since Watson was dropped and it's time for him to get some proper Shield Cricket to iron out his game. I don't want him to fail as a player, but we've tried to groom him at Test level and it doesn't work, he needs to be able to get it together at State level or we'll ruin him as a long form player.

The stuff about Wade is just random speculation. He came in and replaced Peter Nevill based on nothing, they clearly like him. They also had a very easy opportunity to choose Burns/Patterson over him given they had recent Test form but they chose Wade. I think they like him but also realistic that he's 33 and it's not productive to give him too many chances.
 

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He averages 25 after 31 Tests. I don't care that he scored a 70 odd in a game that wasn't even first class standard, he's had numerous gifted opportunities since Watson was dropped and it's time for him to get some proper Shield Cricket to iron out his game. I don't want him to fail as a player, but we've tried to groom him at Test level and it doesn't work, he needs to be able to get it together at State level or we'll ruin him as a long form player.

The stuff about Wade is just random speculation. He came in and replaced Peter Nevill based on nothing, they clearly like him. They also had a very easy opportunity to choose Burns/Patterson over him given they had recent Test form but they chose Wade. I think they like him but also realistic that he's 33 and it's not productive to give him too many chances.
He averages 25 after 31 Tests. I don't care that he scored a 70 odd in a game that wasn't even first class standard, he's had numerous gifted opportunities since Watson was dropped and it's time for him to get some proper Shield Cricket to iron out his game. I don't want him to fail as a player, but we've tried to groom him at Test level and it doesn't work, he needs to be able to get it together at State level or we'll ruin him as a long form player.

The stuff about Wade is just random speculation. He came in and replaced Peter Nevill based on nothing, they clearly like him. They also had a very easy opportunity to choose Burns/Patterson over him given they had recent Test form but they chose Wade. I think they like him but also realistic that he's 33 and it's not productive to give him too many chances.
I don't disagree with you re. Marsh.

When your all rounder has his averages the wrong way around after so many tests it's apparent things havnt quite panned out the way the selectors had hoped.

Thats when Wade was selected as a keeper. As a stand alone bat, he had to kick the door down, replace it, then kick it down again. Then bat higher up the order. He forced his way in through weight of runs but has been shown up in English conditions.

1 good innings out of 6 will always apply immense pressure at 33 years of age, unless you have credits.

Not even sure shield cricket allows anyone to iron out their game anymore. So much pygama s**t mixed in these days, the need to feel bat on ball has never been higher.

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Nope. This series has 1981 written all over it. Australia win the first test. Rain ruins the second which ends in a draw. Then the third test - at Headingley - where England win the unwinnable. Or rather, Australia lose the unloseable. It happens on the back of a blistering century from a controversial all-rounder.

Any of this sounding familiar?
So you're telling me Stokes is going to take 5 wickets for stuff all to win the match for England like Beefy did in the 4th test in 81?
 

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His performance has been too good to not be selected and he has performed well under pressure before.

Khawaja OUT: As much as I like him he's not doing enough for the team
Smith IN: Obvious choice, should be fine now and recovered from the knock
Wade or Head OUT (But not both): Like Khawaja they're not performing enough, but one needs to stay to hold up the middle order
Marsh IN: He's delivered before and has performed well in situations like this before
He got a few runs and wickets against a 3rd rate team and that is too good to leave out? Give me a break. He is just ordinary
 

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