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No complaints with the loss, we were not good enough. Hopefully for the younger players that hurts enough to want a better result.

Still think joining Asia was the best thing the FFA has ever done.

Milligan can play a few games as a send off if he wants but shouldn't be there after that.
Absolutely agree it was the best decision. It sucks bowing out when we should’ve gone on to potentially make the finals (2007,2011).

But feel this time Australia got lucky. The fact that anyone could win this tournament sucks, but tbh Australia were pushing it. There’s problems in Australian football. World Cup sorta showed that, now Asian Cup have pushed it to the forefront. The style Australia plays won’t win games if we cannot finish, whatsoever. The talent isn’t there. 07/11 we had the golden generation. 2015 thought we overachieved and won the cup when we should have been regenerating. Feel like this Asian cup we’ve gone backwards, the lack of talent isn’t as great as well as no A grader other then perhaps Ryan and Mooy.
 

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Andrew Nabbouts professional career stats if you take out his Malaysian league stint ( 14 games 9 goals)

104 games for 23 goals

In what ******* world is that good enough to play for Australia
 

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I feel for the families of the UAE players that died, always tragic to have players die on the pitch, especially late in a game when they are winning, just so tragic. Sending thoughts and prayers.
 
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Everyone will blame Arnold but is it really better than a quarter final type squad ?

Yes easily. His tactics are awful. Arnold is done as Socceroos manager. FFA must pursue a quality foreign manager with a view to Qatar 2022.
 

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Yes easily. His tactics are awful. Arnold is done as Socceroos manager. FFA must pursue a quality foreign manager with a view to Qatar 2022.

Be very careful what you wish for. A 'quality' foreign manager will take 1 look at this joke of a squad and play like Van Maawijk did at the WC. Defend deep with no support for the attackers and try and steal wins like the UAE did.

Arnold's trying to build an attacking side, it took Pep and Klopp more than a year to get their sides going and they see them every day.
 

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Be very careful what you wish for. A 'quality' foreign manager will take 1 look at this joke of a squad and play like Van Maawijk did at the WC. Defend deep with no support for the attackers and try and steal wins like the UAE did.

Arnold's trying to build an attacking side, it took Pep and Klopp more than a year to get their sides going and they see them every day.

Yeah but they can sign players, that's why I don't think club management and international management are comparable.
 
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Everyone will blame Arnold but is it really better than a quarter final type squad ?
No. Especially in Middle East. Need your best, UAE, Iran and Qatar have very united squads. The talent we have is not on par with previous campaigns. Quality up front is not there. Maclaren has failed to fire, and compare that to what we had before.
Felt Australia pushed their luck, especially against Uzbekistan.
It’s Iran to win tbh. Have been the better country for years now and can score, play a good style of football.
 
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Not saying I think Arnold is great, but I think our squad extremely lacks talent also.
We had one outfield player playing in the top 5 leagues in the world. And he was injured.
The lack of quality is apparent. Players then signing for Saudi Pro League doesn’t help that.
FFA have a lot to do, and the solution isn’t simple.
 

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Yeah but they can sign players, that's why I don't think club management and international management are comparable.

That is my point though, they had to reshape squads to get them playing how they wanted. Arnold has the worst squad we have had by a long way since the 80s and yet people still think he can get them playing brilliant football in the first handful of matches
 
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When do we play next? FFA need to sack Arnold ASAP. Just a joke on Australia day of all days.

A return for Arnold to Central Coast Mariners is probably the best thing for him at this stage.
Not til the next international break? July? Not that it matters.
The real question is when do we start our World Cup qualifying campaign. Who’s the man for that. Love to see more of the 2 up front mentality instead of the standard 4-2-1-2-1 formation for years. It’s tried, it’s not working now and won’t for a while again.
 

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We had one outfield player playing in the top 5 leagues in the world. And he was injured.
The lack of quality is apparent. Players then signing for Saudi Pro League doesn’t help that.
FFA have a lot to do, and the solution isn’t simple.

I just don't think people understand this. Our talent is bloody horrible. I read an article which states that we only have 3 players playing regularly in the top 20 leagues in the world. Leckie, Ryan, Mooy
 
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I don't think we expect Arnold to have us playing brilliant football with an ordinary squad but we should be doing better against Jordan and UAE.
We struggled against them even with a better talent squad especially away in Middle East.
Need to learn how to play over there. They’re no pushovers. Respect the opposition. Score early. Simple.
 
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Arnie had a shocker, particularly the ludicrous Nabbout sub at the end. Our game plan is way too predictable, the amount of times we had no one in the middle of the park with no Rogic was staggering.

Milligan has been a great servant of the National team but he is cooked, he got worse as the tournament went on. Need to pension him off and quickly so we can get Luongo, Amini and others playing.

Not all doom and gloom, put Boyle, Arzani and Mooy in and we get better. But the real concern is how the hell are we going to score regularly? Maclaren can get in the bin, Giannou passable but there’s literally nothing else.
 
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