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thegreig

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Footy in Melbourne for VFL/AFL for a longtime before the other codes stole the moniker

League for RL in NSW QLD

Soccer for Association Football all around the nation
I would honestly just prefer it if we officially changed the name to footy, Australian Footy League.
Everyone already calls it that anyway and It would just stop this stupid conversation (in this country anyway).
 

NoobPie

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I would honestly just prefer it if we officially changed the name to footy, Australian Footy League.
Everyone already calls it that anyway and It would just stop this stupid conversation (in this country anyway).
Abandon the name "football" (which is still extensively used btw) for its nickname "footy" because another code wants to insist on using the term exclusively without qualifier?

Also, you do realise the other major code in this country uses "footy" as much as Australian football does?

I grew up in an area where soccer was certainly played more than football. There was no "stupid conversation" then. I don't remember such a stupid conversation until I met a pom at uni
 

thegreig

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Abandon the name "football" (which is still extensively used btw) for its nickname "footy" because another code wants to insist on using the term exclusively without qualifier?

Also, you do realise the other major code in this country uses "footy" as much as Australian football does?

I grew up in an area where soccer was certainly played more than football. There was no "stupid conversation" then. I don't remember such a stupid conversation until I met a pom at uni
In my opinion, yes. It’s not just one code either, off the top of my head I can think of 6. All these codes have a right to use the name football as well as technically they all evolved from similar roots but I just don’t see the point in it considering the connected world we live in today. I’d rather the game be referred to as footy than AFL. Ideally it would be:
Footy
Soccer
Rugby
Gridiron
League
Gaelic
All of them football codes and none of them owning the name football.
 

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In my opinion, yes. It’s not just one code either, off the top of my head I can think of 6. All these codes have a right to use the name football as well as technically they all evolved from similar roots but I just don’t see the point in it considering the connected world we live in today. I’d rather the game be referred to as footy than AFL. Ideally it would be:
Footy
Soccer
Rugby
Gridiron
League
Gaelic
All of them football codes and none of them owning the name football.
You've disenfranchised Rugby League twice! Why does Union get to still be called Rugby exclusively under this peace agreement? Can the AFL and NRL still use "League" or do we need to change the "Ls"?

The issue is not that different sports use the word, it's when claims are made to it for universal use

Here's the problem....

And the term, Szymanski says, was widely recognized in England through the first half of the twentieth century, according to data he crunched from books and newspapers. It became even more prevalent after the World War II — driven, he suggests, by the number of American soldiers in the country and the infatuation with American culture that came after the war.

But by the 1980s, Brits started to turn against the word. “The penetration of the game into American culture,” Szymanski writes, “has led to backlash against the use of the word in Britain, where it was once considered an innocuous alternative to the word ‘football.'”
This british disease ended up infecting us and so now we are unfortunately stuck with the "stupid conversation"
 

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thegreig

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You've disenfranchised Rugby League twice! Why does Union get to still be called Rugby exclusively under this peace agreement? Can the AFL and NRL still use "League" or do we need to change the "Ls"?
Because the sports are already referred to as “League” and “Ruby” amongst their fans.
No, you would not need to replace the “Ls” because it’s already referred to as League around the nation with no issues.
 

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Because the sports are already referred to as “League” and “Ruby” amongst their fans.
No, you would not need to replace the “Ls” because it’s already referred to as League around the nation with no issues.
But if we have to lose "football" that we have used for 160 years why would we be able to keep using "League" which now belongs to another sport in the settlement?

If I were rugby league, and I've just been told I need to stop using "footy" "football" and "rugby" when referring to myself, I reckon I'd be pretty insistent on the Australian footy league finding another word for "League"

Anyways, here's a deal, get FIFA and the NFL on board and I promise to go along with this conventional reform
 

thegreig

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But if we have to lose "football" that we have used for 160 years why would we be able to keep using "League" which now belongs to another sport in the settlement?

If I were rugby league, and I've just been told I need to stop using "footy" "football" and "rugby" when referring to myself, I reckon I'd be pretty insistent on the Australian footy league finding another word for "League"

Anyways, here's a deal, get FIFA and the NFL on board and I promise to go along with this conventional reform
I think you’re League example is ridiculous considering it’s literally what it’s already referred to as, it’s just another argument for the sake of arguing.
Anyway we both know it’s not going to change anytime soon (if ever) because humans are stubborn emotional animals but in an idea world this would be a nice solution. In the meantime I’ll continue to scratch my head when I hear the news reporter say “next in Australian football...” and then proceed to talk about the a-league, or when I hear an eight year old say “I play AFL”. But that’s what we’re stuck with for now.
 

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I think you’re League example is ridiculous considering it’s literally what it’s already referred to as, it’s just another argument for the sake of arguing.
Anyway we both know it’s not going to change anytime soon (if ever) because humans are stubborn emotional animals but in an idea world this would be a nice solution. In the meantime I’ll continue to scratch my head when I hear the news reporter say “next in Australian football...” and then proceed to talk about the a-league, or when I hear an eight year old say “I play AFL”. But that’s what we’re stuck with for now.
It's ridiculous because its ridiculous. I wasn't being serious

The point is we all get by calling games "football" or "footy" in their own contexts without anyone caring. Your "next in Australian football" example is the problem not Australian Football calling its pro league the Australian football league
 

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I would honestly just prefer it if we officially changed the name to footy, Australian Footy League.
Everyone already calls it that anyway and It would just stop this stupid conversation (in this country anyway).
The Melbourne Herald many years ago maybe 1960s tried to rename Australian Football as Footy but it never grew any legs!
 

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