Game Day 2019 AFL Grand Final Discussion: Richmond vs GWS

Who wins?

  • Richmond

    Votes: 29 74.4%
  • GWS

    Votes: 10 25.6%

  • Total voters
    39

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OneGreatClub

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Decisions are brave when they are pulled off, like Richmond playing Pickett.
If the result had gone the other way it would have been called a stupid / poor decision.
GWS were stupid playing Davis, but their decision would have been called brave if they had pulled it off.
Hindsight is a marvellous thing, it really is.
 

Power Girl

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Decisions are brave when they are pulled off, like Richmond playing Pickett.
If the result had gone the other way it would have been called a stupid / poor decision.
GWS were stupid playing Davis, but their decision would have been called brave if they had pulled it off.
Hindsight is a marvellous thing, it really is.
But GWS would not have been called stupid for leaving Davis out or Whitfield for that matter. It may have given them a bit more run and firepower or at worst an excuse for their abysmal performance.

Why does Ken keep having those whoopsie it didn't quite come off moments .. I would have looked like a genius if it did, type moments why?
 

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Byrons Firen

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We'll never know but it'd be interesting to see ratings at 1st bounce then 1/2 way thru' the 3rd qtr.
My guess...they fell off the proverbial cliff. I for one checked out before 3/4 time....had better things to do.
Glad the season's over I've had enough of football. Normally the off season is painfully long but as the years under Ken have rolled on and on and...
these off seasons feel like they're getting shorter.

Onya Kern ya freeloading parasitic clueless stubborn arrogant club killer.
 

Duck Farmer

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This is surely the title for a new thread "Ken's Brave/Insane Decisions".

So many Brave/Insane selections to choose from ...
I think the word bravesane for Hinkley's actions could catch on in a similar vein to Tobias Funke's portmanteau of analyst and therapist.
 

Jojay

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I keep reading something into every comment by a Port affiliated person. Like there’s an undercurrent of dissatisfaction.
No doubt both tweets (in particular Jack's) are subtle digs at Ports. We'll look back on this era as our 'Robert Shaw years' - only problem is, everyone knows it's happening except this administration.
 

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Ford Fairlane

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It would have felt like the entire stadium was against them.
Unsurprising that they didn’t gel.
07 was worse. We had the whole state against us. At least some people didn't want Richmond to win another one. Everybody in Victoria wanted to see Geelong win. It was all I read in every paper over there on the weekend and in every news story.

Geelong were never going to take their foot off the pedal after 44 years of failure and even the umps who usually try to save a grand final contest joined in the festive spirit of pulling Port apart.

It was a unique set of circumstances that will never be repeated.
 

Marmozet

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Lucky I no longer hate Richmond lol I would have been homicidal if they won premierships between 2013-15 instead of now.
 

Janus

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That is seriously not a good idea - speaking from experience of being the assaultee;)
A friend of mine was almost arrested in a club for pretending to lick his finger and then placing it on the shoulder of a female police officer and making a sizzling sound.

Still makes me laugh to this day :D
 

Rexie J

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A friend of mine was almost arrested in a club for pretending to lick his finger and then placing it on the shoulder of a female police officer and making a sizzling sound.

Still makes me laugh to this day :D

That certainly wouldn't/couldn't happen in my era for reasons i shall not develop.

In that era, women police were a separate group within the structure and didn't undertake any patrol work or general policing.
 

Power Girl

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I think it was Wayne Carey yesterday who was talking about how J Riewoldt had to change his attitude and the way he played to include a more team first approach and he did it. And then i thought yes i am seeing less sulking, yelling at his own players etc. but that could be due to them winning and there being no need to scream at your team mates (which I saw a few Giants doing yesterday). Jack certainly seems to have toned it down a lot more lately.

I don't hate half the Richmond players as much as i used to. Is it because they are becoming less offensive or have I got a soft spot now because of 2017 who knows.
 

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89 points is every bit as bad as 119, if not worse, given current scoring levels.
and kicking 3 goals on a nice sunny day.

they simply got stage fright on the day.

I'm just thankful that Cameron isn't a premiership coach today
 

tribey

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NUFC, YES.
If I could travel back in time, then I'd go back to July-December 2004, stop Clarko going for the job at the Hawks, stop Mrs Hardwick from pestering Dimma to go back to Melbourne when Clarko got the the job, stop Andrew Russell leaving for Hawthorn, talk Bucky into staying for one or two more years, talk to Schofield and convince him and the missus to stay another year, Josh Carr you wont change his mind, tell Byron no bumping in the preseason comp next year, go and find the best knee specialist to fix Roger James' knee make sure we don't sack Chris Pelchen and keep the Melbourne office for a year or two and not worry about that cost cutting, and go and talk to my friendly suicide bomber mate who worked for Abu Musab al-Zarqawi to go and visit the SANFL.

After we broke thru with the flag we needed to go back to back GF's as a minimum, but win them and make 3 GF's in a row to lock in our success. Watching the 2004 GF on 7's GF marathon last night, was a reminder that we had to repeat 2004 GF and not have such a mass exodus a week after the flag.
The stadium deal and the SANFL’s self-defeating vendetta was the ticking timebomb set to inevitably undermine everything.

The club knew it was in a race against time to cash in on an equal footing and finally did that in 2004.

Whatever the personal ambitions of Bucky, Russell, Pittman, Clarkson, Pelchen, Hardwick, Carr, Schofield and the other members of the exodus, there was always going to be a fiscal slash and burn in the mid-to-late 00’s as per the coming crunch.

The time to blow the whistle was when we were superficially strong, not when we were at our lowest ebb.

But then where would we be?

The ‘Sensible Solution’ of the Football Park lipstick-on-a-pig redevelopment in perpetuity, instead of Adelaide Oval?

But would that have come with more onfield success regardless?

Helluva dilemma.
 

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