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Richmond by 12 points
Bachar Houli Norm Smith
Richmond by 12 points
Bachar Houli Norm Smith
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Exactly this. Everyone outside Victoria should be supporting GWS. Not because we should give a s**t about GWS per se. A self-sustaining GWS can stand up to the AFL with the other non-Vic clubs when Gil's (or no doubt an equally 'Melbourne is the centre of the sporting UNIVERSE!!!!!!' stooge replacement) 'VFL, oops AFL' tendencies are too blatant (which is often).The AFL, after their wet dream VFL Grand Final didn't come to fruition, would be heavily favouring GWS you'd reckon. Although we know the AFL is completely about propagating the biggest Vic teams, strategically a GWS win would be the better long term outcome for the AFL. Richmond have won their GF, their massive ongoing support is guaranteed. The AFL dream of the riches tapping further into the Sydney market can bring. They want GWS to be sustainable once the Ferraris become FIATS. The best way to lure support is success. I don't reckon we'll see heavily pro Richmond umpiring on Saturday despite the overwhelming crowd support.
Every winning premiership teams supporters become unbearable afterwards, unless they quickly turn to s**t (*cough* Port *cough*) afterwards. I hope mid 2020's when the stench of KKK has been expunged totally we can be the fans everyone hates, as we are the one's telling everyone else average players are great because they have a premiership medal. Plus the ever popular 'What would you know, your team didn't win the flag', as if every one of their BigFooty fans was crammed at the back of the coaches box on Grand Final day providing the sage advice that ensured victory.Nah fu** Richmond. Whilst we all will be grateful for 2017, their supporters on this site have become intolerable.
GWS can win this especially if Cameron, Finlayson and Himmelberg stretch the Tigers defence and if Greene, Whitfield and Conigilio come back into the guts and heavily add to their mid field dominance. Mummy could do some physical damage knowing this is his last game.
But I want Dimma to win another flag, plus I don't want GWS to win a flag in their 8th season. I'd rather see the record books say the expansion sides won their flags in WCE 6th and 8th, crows 7th and 8th, Port 8th and GWS 9th or later.
I've said plenty of times before, GWS will be at their peak between their 8th and 13th seasons. The high draft picks of the first 3 years who didn't want to hang around have gone home, the rest have stayed and built a dominate club playing 100+ games together.
Their peak will be more than 2 years. They will be like Brisbane 4 GFs in 4 years, Geelong 4 in 5 years with a PF in the middle of those 5 years, and Hawthorn 4 GF's in 4 years, but play in a PF then 4 GF's, then finish 3rd but out in straight sets.This will be just like Richmond vs Adelaide.
The only reason why GWS is even in the grand final is because it rained against Collingwood which limited their run and carry and made it a slop fest that shrank the size of the ground. As soon as it dried up, Collingwood was all over them.
If it's a dry day, Richmond by the length of the Flemmington. 60+. They are just better drilled at defence, they've got two genuine marking threats to keep Davis and Haynes occupied, and their midfield is on par with the Giants in terms of production and probably better at the contest.
If it's wet, Richmond will still win, just not by as much.
GWS are at their peak now and next year. That's why they went out and got Jacobs to replace Mumford.
Stephen Congilio - 25. Signed a 7 year deal this year. On $1m a year.
Josh Kelly - 24. Signed a 2 year deal with a 4 year player option (meaning that salary is tied up in the cap) and a 4 year team option. On $1m a year.
Toby Greene - 25. One year into a 6 year, $6m contract.
That's three players that are on $1m a year, which leaves around $10m of cap space to pay:
Phil Davis - 29. Out of contract in 2021. He'd be on $600k a season.
Nick Haynes - 27. Signed a 5 year deal this year. He'd also be on $600k a season.
Callan Ward - 29. Out of contract in 2021. $600k as well.
Tim Taranto - 21. Out of contact in 2021. $250k maybe?
Aidan Corr - 25. Out of contract in 2020.
Lachie Whitfield - 25. Out of contract in 2020. Will command a massive payday.
Jeremy Cameron - 25. Out of contract in 2020. Will command a massive payday.
Zac Williams - 25. Out of contract in 2020. Will command a massive payday.
Jackson Hately - 19. Out of contract in 2020.
Jye Caldwell - 19. Out of contract in 2020.
Jeremy Finlayson - 23. Out of contract in 2020. Will command a massive payday.
Bold are players that would improve pretty much everyone in the league's list. GWS knows this - they'll ditch Patton to keep Cameron, try to keep Williams and Whitfield together by ditching Finlayson (who they tried to trade two years ago), and they might even get rid of Hately just to keep Caldwell.
What they are trying to do is win a flag so the players that they palm off command the 'premiership premium' and they can continue to dominate by picking the eyes out of the draft every year. It's ridiculous how much of a leg up these campaigners got.
That's why I don't want them to win.