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No idea. I haven't read anywhere about him being a potential cat B rookie.
Nor have I. Just seeing if there is a Hawthorn-esque way to list a player like this without really listing him.
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No idea. I haven't read anywhere about him being a potential cat B rookie.
Mate, you have time to drum up these ridiculous trades, sure you could find the time to do the math on incumbents re signing at their clubs.Once again, what is the %?
3 of 50 or 100?
So your saying as long as North aren't the counter party, the uncontracted player will likely leave if he hasn re-signed by August.
Mate, you have time to drum up these ridiculous trades, sure you could find the time to do the math on incumbents re signing at their clubs.
And don't put words in my mouth. I provided 3 recent examples, nothing more.
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You love making long tenuous links that simply don't exist. The fact goldy hasn't signed doesn't mean he is gone as you suggest. It means he hasn't signed. Simple. He may leave, but for every example of players who have left there are others who have re signed at their incumbent club.Ok so unless Brad Scott and Cam Joyce are the buying party, the % is 100? This is the evidence you are presenting.
Which ridiculous trades are you talking about Schwein? Ridiculous in general or just to you.
You reply in disgust at every post, surely you have some time to discuss the ones you disagree with and provide evidence as to why they are a) unrealistic and not in our best interest or b) involve a player that you would like to keep in order to continue finishing 9-15 or c) just want to disagree with someone because your life is really boring and it's 3 working days until your next delivery of Flakka arrives?
We are discussing Goldstein who is yet to re-sign on August 7 2019 as a possible departure in October, how the fu** is that ridiculous?
You don't have to reply, you can just ignore. There is no obligation on your part to involve yourself FFS.
You love making long tenuous links that simply don't exist. The fact goldy hasn't signed doesn't mean he is gone as you suggest. It means he hasn't signed. Simple. He may leave, but for every example of players who have left there are others who have re signed at their incumbent club.
Further to that, you trawl the Jmac forum slagging him to high heaven, then use him as trade bait for guys like Papley. That isn't unrealistic, it is actually ridiculous. If you don't want ridiculous theorems potted on here, don't post them. This is a forum, so the fact you post them suggests you want feedback. In this instance I have provided it.
As for what trades and that sort of jazz we would offer, I'm firmly of the belief our players are probably worth more to us than to other clubs. As in, I would prefer we retained guys routinely used as trade bait up here like JMac, Dumont, Turner etc than a lottery 3rd or 4th round we would get in return. If we WANT papley, then we will rightfully have to cough up for him. Someone said our 2nd isn't enough, and our first is too much. I'd agree with that. As you suggested JMac for Papley, whilst is great for us, is completely lopsided and shows you don't know arthur from martha
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If you can get Papley for JMAC and 2020 r2 then I would be happy for you to be on trade committee That would be a steal for us but good luck getting the Swans to agree to it.Fair enough, thanks for a good response.
I actually said jmac played really well on the weekend, so yes a subsequent post was not as flattering but it was more to balance out the absurd nonsense of Philly/SB who were engaging in the ultimate I told you so after his one really good performance for the year. The zest for one-upmanship is beyond rational thought with some.
I brought up Jmac in the Papley trade based on a few things that happen in the AFL. Clubs overpay for players who perform well against their teams, it's a fact. But also, jmacs hypothetical trade value was increased based on his great performance in prime time on a Friday night, not to mention he would appear to be a decent fit for the Swans and i really don't want to involve our first pick in any Trade for Pap irrespective of his 'perceived value'.
I will agree to disagree re: the Dumont's/Turner's/Tyson's/Goldy/Jmac/Atley who I think we should listen to offers, but I'm not as welded to these types as you seem to be. A lot will depend on Shaws willingness to put his own stamp on the team.
For the record, Macmillan is highishly rated in the AFL world outside our own supporters for some reason.
Macmillan + 2020 R2 for Papley is a decent trade for the Swans for a bloke they got for nothing. They also have academy kids next year they will need points for which may be of interest to them.
If you can get Papley for JMAC and 2020 r2 then I would be happy for you to be on trade committee That would be a steal for us but good luck getting the Swans to agree to it.
A late/rookie prospect from left field is Werribee forward/wingman Bior Malual.
Sudanese footballer, 22 y.o played a few games for western jets a few years ago after only being introduced to football at age 16.
After winning BOG in the EDFL granny last year and winning Airport West’s best and fairest he got listed by Werribee. He is 188cm and only 70kg but he is lightning quick, has a freakish vertical leap and is an elite runner. Haven’t seen him play myself but a few guys down at Werribee said his development has been off the charts this year and he has scouts watching him every game. Mark Williams has said if he was still in the AFL system he would have no hesitation picking up, because he had the ability to turn a game on its head.
He played in the forward pocket on the weekend for Werribee and kicked 4.1 to go with his 20 touches. Has kicked 18 goals for the year and averaged 13 disposals per game.
Why 2020 and not this years 1st Obviously must be a reason cause you have mentioned next years a few times now. Just curious.It would certainly be my opening offer. All you can do is ask.
The alternative is 2020 R1 for Papley + 40 or something like that, which to me is massive overs.
Going to be interesting to see what they ask for.
I wouldn't say I am rusted onto our players, just that for every Zurhaar or Larkey we may snare in the latter stages of the draft there are dozens of Josh Williams and Daniel Nielsons. I like trading for established players, and trying to avoid trading our ones given their likely worth come draft time is a genuine lottery in the 2nd 3rd and 4th rounds of the draft. A bird in the hand? So if it means shipping off a JMac or a Dumont for a 3rd or 4th round pick, no thanks I'd rather keep themFair enough, thanks for a good response.
I actually said jmac played really well on the weekend, so yes a subsequent post was not as flattering but it was more to balance out the absurd nonsense of Philly/SB who were engaging in the ultimate I told you so after his one really good performance for the year. The zest for one-upmanship is beyond rational thought with some.
I brought up Jmac in the Papley trade based on a few things that happen in the AFL. Clubs overpay for players who perform well against their teams, it's a fact. But also, jmacs hypothetical trade value was increased based on his great performance in prime time on a Friday night, not to mention he would appear to be a decent fit for the Swans and i really don't want to involve our first pick in any Trade for Pap irrespective of his 'perceived value'.
I will agree to disagree re: the Dumont's/Turner's/Tyson's/Goldy/Jmac/Atley who I think we should listen to offers, but I'm not as welded to these types as you seem to be. A lot will depend on Shaws willingness to put his own stamp on the team.
For the record, Macmillan is highishly rated in the AFL world outside our own supporters for some reason.
Macmillan + 2020 R2 for Papley is a decent trade for the Swans for a bloke they got for nothing. They also have academy kids next year they will need points for which may be of interest to them.
Continues to show Andrew Gaff-like tendencies as a run and carry left-footer.
Rhai Arn Cox (East Perth) Was a gun junior but had off field issues. Getting to Victoria could be good for him
The 2017 WA U16s State Academy member showed off his flair and offensive tricks in the forward half for the Royals. He collected 14 possessions, recorded two inside 50s and kicked a goal in a solid performance. As a small forward, Cox boasts excellent goal sense and the ability to take strong contested marks – similar to how West Coast star Liam Ryan plays.
It reminds me of this bloke called Michael utensil who hated his name so much that he changed it to Dale utensil.Why does it not surprise me that someone with a name Rhai Arn has off field issues? I'd be pi**ed off with the world too if I had to explain to every person I met how to spell my name.
I had a teacher named Mick DickieIt reminds me of this bloke called Michael utensil who hated his name so much that he changed it to Dale utensil.
Why does it not surprise me that someone with a name Rhai Arn has off field issues? I'd be pi**ed off with the world too if I had to explain to every person I met how to spell my name.
Macmillan + 2020 R2 for Papley is a decent trade for the Swans for a bloke they got for nothing. They also have academy kids next year they will need points for which may be of interest to them.