djrasta213
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Lol at some wanting 3 Bulldog midfiellders in the squad. Bont is your only chance. When was the last time 3 midfielders made it from one team?
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Lol at some wanting 3 Bulldog midfiellders in the squad. Bont is your only chance. When was the last time 3 midfielders made it from one team?
Macrae is 100th for average metres gained, while Cripps is even lower. If you're going to base player impact on metres gained, then you'd have to agree Cripps doesn't belong in the AA team, right? Because that sounds pretty silly doesn't it112th in the comp for metres gained despite 33 disposals a game (#2 in the comp).
That's horrific. Watching him backs it up. Most of his possessions go sideways or backwards. Little impact.
Great dream team player but he needs a proper coach to sort out his game.
Macrae is 100th for average metres gained, while Cripps is even lower. If you're going to base player impact on metres gained, then you'd have to agree Cripps doesn't belong in the AA team, right? Because that sounds pretty silly doesn't it
He's not really wingmen but if if you're gonna fill the wing with mids, you might as well pick balanced mids like him for it.Is the wing position just given to an inside midfielder or what? Would've hardly thought Macrae was a winger
Goes to show how little you must watch of him then.112th in the comp for metres gained despite 33 disposals a game (#2 in the comp).
That's horrific. Watching him backs it up. Most of his possessions go sideways or backwards. Little impact.
Great dream team player but he needs a proper coach to sort out his game.
Goes to show how little you must watch of him then.
He’s 8th in the league in score involvement and 2nd in goal assists. He’s also 4th in the league in assisted metres gained (article from July) and I can provide a link for that.
Bont is our metres gained weapon from the middle, Macrae is the one who sets everyone else up and puts them in dangerous positions.
Yep. Round 5 Cripps had 37 disposals and 83 meters gained. I was critical on him for that one, but as soon as you get up around 300-350 per game, that's fine for players that play a role like Macrae does.
For sure meters gained don't mean everything, but Cripps and Macrae aren't really similar in their role. Macrae picks up 20 uncontested possessions per game, Cripps only 10.
Macrae is more like a taller,stronger Andrew Gaff
Fagan for coach? Or do they just give it to the premiership coach by default?
Not quite the contested beast cripps is, but I wasn't comparing them at all. For the record:
Avg contested possessions
Cripps 16.8
Macrae 13.8
Gaff 8.9
Right, a Richmond fan whinging about a Richmond player not being as highly rated against a player in a different role. If I can direct you to the Coleman Medal, Saad has kept 6 of the top 7 goal kickers for small forwards (excluding Lloyd because he was injured for this game) in Cameron, Sexton, Betts, Walters, Papley and Breust to 5 goals in 7 games including keeping CC and Betts goalless and the others to 1 goal in the games he's played. He's been doing an excellent job as the #1 small defender whilst still averaging 17 disposals, 4.4 rebound 50's and 337 metres gained per game.Vlastuin is an elite intercept and rebounding defender nowadays. How anyone would ever even consider the likes of Jake Lloyd or Adam Saad before him is laughable.
And what did both of those teams have in common.... They both finished top of the ladder. You guys arent even in the 8!Bont isn't a chance, he's a lock. The other 2 are chances. Dunkley would be a lock if he played rounds 1-6 in the midfield. Last team with 3 mids in the squad of 40 was richmond 2018. Last team with 3 mids in the 22 was sydney 2016.
Luckily the All Australian team isn't a team based selection. We have an elite midfield, with multiple top class guys in there. We aren't high on the ladder because we're weak down back and up forward. But you'd have to be crazy to question the calibre of our midfielders.And what did both of those teams have in common.... They both finished top of the ladder. You guys arent even in the 8!
And what did both of those teams have in common.... They both finished top of the ladder. You guys arent even in the 8!
112th in the comp for metres gained despite 33 disposals a game (#2 in the comp).
That's horrific. Watching him backs it up. Most of his possessions go sideways or backwards. Little impact.
Great dream team player but he needs a proper coach to sort out his game.
Fair enough. On the other end though, uncontested possessions -
Cripps - 11.5
Macrae - 19.4
Gaff - 22.3
You do realise the All Australian team is selected on individual merit? Carlton are going to finish bottom 4, yet will have Cripps in the 22. Melbourne will finish bottom 4, yet will have Gawn in the squad (if not the 22). Players are selected based on how well they performed over the year, not how well their team did.And what did both of those teams have in common.... They both finished top of the ladder. You guys arent even in the 8!
It's like when Melbourne won six matches in a row in 2018 and suddenly half their team became AA contenders.Lol at some wanting 3 Bulldog midfiellders in the squad. Bont is your only chance. When was the last time 3 midfielders made it from one team?
Can I get that link? I bet Cripps would be high in assisted meters gained.
Metres gained, like effective disposals, is a stat that must be examined closely and should not be taken as the be-all and end-all.
If you pinpoint your teammate with a 40 metre kick but they stuff it up and their opponent manages to gain possession and kick it back 40 metres, it is counted as 0 metres gained. Inside midfielders doing the grunt work always have less metres gained anyway because they tend to win first possession and flick out a quick handball backwards of the pack to an open teammate (0 metres) or just slam it on the boot for territory if they are under a lot of pressure (high chance of 0 metres).
And of course forwards have a lot less opportunity for metres gained compared to defenders.