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It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times
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yeah trade our 2 best players on picks that could be worse than themWe have the worst list in the AFL. The lack of quality youth is the most concerning.
We have lost our identity after moving from Freo and losing RTB.
If we lose Hill and Langdon we honestly will have a team that would struggle in the wafl.
I'm looking forward to seeing the pre-season optimism; but I can't see where it will come from.
Maybe we should trade Fyfe and Walters and pick all the quality WA youth this year and start again. It's not like we are going to win a flag in the next 3 years.
If we fixed the injuries we would be playing finals next week, with the single coach. Instead our players are unavailable, we don't have the depth of talent going deep to replace our spine - which no team does - and we fell short.
Alex Pearce when he is fit is the premier CHB in the league and aside from him stopping an opposition tall, particularly a marking tall, one of the best things he does for the side is allow the rest of the defensive set up to have the confidence in his ability to not lose that contest, particularly the aerial contests. We don't have as much team mate spoiling going on, we have a mark we build off and because the defense was expecting either a spoil or a mark to us our players start working to get dangerous instead of rushing to outnumber the contest.Our spine with Hogan or Pearce is B grade at best. And both are very injury prone.
The big concern I have our lack of speed and class, plus good players 23 to 27.
Halfway through? So we were set for another 4 years of this? Thank god we sacked him.A mixed year with some strong wins and poor losses heavily derailed by injuries. Overall a clear improvement from last year which is all I wanted and if we can sort out our medical staff and get some talent in the middle we'll be very well placed for finals.
But ducks go quack, cows go moo and AFL fans scream sack the coach halfway through a rebuild which is what happened.
Halfway through? So we were set for another 4 years of this? Thank god we sacked him.
Anyways, will be good to have everyone back on the park next year.
A year spent in limbo as we waited for change at the top.
Now we can move forward
Or maybe you can put it on the expectations themselves.If we are doing an autopsy of the year it was way below expectations for mine. You can blame whatever you want - coaches, player development, fitness - but it was a net negative. We were aiming for finals and that was the pass mark.
The board were probably right in their estimation that Lyon should not coach us beyond 2020, but the way they have utterly screwed up the process of replacing him means they have set us up to go backwards not forwards. We are a nothing club at present.
If we fixed the injuries we would be playing finals next week, with the single coach. Instead our players are unavailable, we don't have the depth of talent going deep to replace our spine - which no team does - and we fell short.
Chicken and egg. Are some our injuries down to playing (or trying to) such an exhausting and unrelenting physical pressure game that our players are more exposed to risk?
Hopefully that's the last time I see that ball butcher Langdon in purple.
Can you demonstrate that our players run more than other teams?
Our primary reason for our gun talls missing is bone breaks.
Injuries have been a forever thing. 2011 we nearly had to bring in some ring-ins to cover the record levels of injuries. Taylor's dead right with demonstrating GPS km's as a causal link, it needs more of the observable stuff over feelpinions to qualify for critical thinking.Chicken and egg. Are some our injuries down to playing (or trying to) such an exhausting and unrelenting physical pressure game that our players are more exposed to risk?
So if I understand you correctly, what you're saying is that he doesn't have the initiative to identify he has a skill problem and take responsibility to work on it himself?I see where you're coming from, but if we're willing to cut some slack to other players for the lack of skill that hasn't been COACHED for the past 8 years, why not Ed? He's a running machine, kicks the ball when he's at full tilt, and is bound to burn it at times. But if we get a coach that practices skills, why wouldn't he benefit from that too? You watch, he'll go somewhere where skills are worked on, and he'll turn into an elite winger, probably get an AA at some point in his career. Take it to whatever bank we're supposed to take it to when someone wants to be emphatic with an opinion.
Injuries have been a forever thing. 2011 we nearly had to bring in some ring-ins to cover the record levels of injuries. Taylor's dead right with demonstrating GPS km's as a causal link, it needs more of the observable stuff over feelpinions to qualify for critical thinking.
It is impossible to prove our game plan is more prone to creating injury risk to players without running a controlled experiment, and that is not possible without a time machine. But we always seem to have bad luck with injuries every season. Maybe it is not bad luck but something we are doing wrong. Wishing for fewer injuries and saying "oh but without injuries we coulda. been a contender..." I think is avoiding critical thinking about the real problems.
So if I understand you correctly, what you're saying is that he doesn't have the initiative to identify he has a skill problem and take responsibility to work on it himself?
Pretty sure Freo is one of the lower tackling sides for a few years now. Haven't looked at the 1%s.Running distance is not the issue, uncontested "bruise free" footy requires lots of running too. The issue for me is the repeated physical clashes - tackling and being tackled, being brought to ground, aerial contests and heavy landings, bumps, smothers... that sort of thing. "Bruise inviting" footy.
Pretty sure Freo is one of the lower tackling sides for a few years now. Haven't looked at the 1%s.
When fit our preferred distributors out the backline are Wilson, SHill and Ryan. It's their role to use the ball well and help us move the ball forward in an aggressive fashion. All three are injured so at the moment it's the lesser lights that are doing the distributing out of the back line. (Duman, Nyhuis, Logue, Hughes, etc.) Yes it would be great if they were better (we need our depth to be better if we want to move up the ladder). However they're the second string options and I'm not going to be as harsh on them as I am on the first string players.I see where you're coming from, but if we're willing to cut some slack to other players for the lack of skill that hasn't been COACHED for the past 8 years, why not Ed? He's a running machine, kicks the ball when he's at full tilt, and is bound to burn it at times. But if we get a coach that practices skills, why wouldn't he benefit from that too? You watch, he'll go somewhere where skills are worked on, and he'll turn into an elite winger, probably get an AA at some point in his career. Take it to whatever bank we're supposed to take it to when someone wants to be emphatic with an opinion.