List Mgmt. 2019 Trade Thread - Part IV

[Veer Right]

So lets say we had the option of Hill or Whitfield. Who would you sell the house for?

Hypothetical of course. Whitfield isn't coming.

Clearly Whitfield but GWS will never let him go and pay him whatever it takes so its a moot point.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

What about Tom Phillips instead of Hill?
Similar stats.....3 years younger....

Would he cost less trade wise? Would 12 get it done?

Phillips plays so wide, he runs into blokes smoking out on the concourse.

There’s no comparison between the two IMO...


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[Hugga]

im not familiar enough to know if that is intended as a joke ..or not...but either way ...Politely...So What? I'm sick of hearing about the KINGS ...either way....not interested in who we are not getting ...just the facts on who we are adding and who we are loosing...

Get with the programme Prophetic; that is classic BF comedy gold. Keeps us smiling in times of doubt.

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[Saint Shags]

Tom Browne reported that Ben King re-signed for two to two & a half times the market rate. We are taking 700-900k PA if Browne is correct which is highly questionable.

Wouldn't be surprised if the AFL made sure that the deal was too good to refuse. They need GC to work and King would be a big part of it. You reckon they would only have a short amount of time to really get this club up and functioning otherwise all of the concessions just given will be for nothing.

 

[Veer Right]

If we don't target Hill then surely we go after Crouch. Has to be one or the other.

 

[Sir Skid]

Why does anyone want to "forget about Hill" - he IMO is integral to any improvement we make next year.

Without a doubt, in light of Ben King re-signing, he is the MOST IMPORTANT deal we have to do. If it doesn't get done this trade period is a failure IMO.

The Hill trade needs to happen for Hill, Saints and future trades

 

[LiterallyNobody]

Would we be happy with 12 and 2020 1st for Hill and 26 (ZJones)

Could keep Bruce then.

I'd be happy with that as LCS.

If we get something back, I don't mind using our 2020 1R

 

[Boppo]

Why does anyone want to "forget about Hill" - he IMO is integral to any improvement we make next year.

Without a doubt, in light of Ben King re-signing, he is the MOST IMPORTANT deal we have to do. If it doesn't get done this trade period is a failure IMO.

I hate the thought of him leaving Freo, he would be amazing at the Saints. You'd get 200 games out of him.

 

[Saintsman33]

Tom Browne reported that Ben King re-signed for two to two & a half times the market rate. We are taking 700-900k PA if Browne is correct which is highly questionable.

Lloyd and Damo discussed similar points. Lloyd seemed to be genuinely shocked that he did resign right now, and not wait and see how the first half of next year goes. But then they commented that he is no doubt going to be a wealthy man and that some of the extension will likely be paid this year, so essentially, instead of still getting his rookie contract wage, Ben will be making really, really good money in his second year.

Seems like Gold Coast made the offer extremely attractive and maybe Ben's parents and manager told him that it would be silly to reject it & that nothing is stopping him from requesting a trade next season.

 

[Keg on legs]

Would we be happy with 12 and 2020 1st for Hill and 26 (ZJones)

Could keep Bruce then.

Freo have 22, not 26

 

[Crusty Undies]

What????
When the fu** did this happen?

Yesterday evening apparently.

 

[Yawkey way]

Tom Browne reported that Ben King re-signed for two to two & a half times the market rate. We are taking 700-900k PA if Browne is correct which is highly questionable.

I’m glad Ben got his payday, but here we go again king on overs, Ellis on overs, Weller on overs and cap rooted.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

And try draft a player of Hills quality with 12??

We probably wouldn't get that outside mid, but i'd love to be able to get someone like Ryan Byrnes.
Could end up ordinary or he could end up rated way higher than Hill.

 

[Armoooo]

came here for the lols

I'd wait until Wednesday night if I were you. If we miss out on Hill as well the melts will go down in bigfooty folklore.

We've been so s**t for so long that we finally had something to get excited about and we end up looking like such dicks haha.

 

[L_W_P]

I'd wait until Wednesday night if I were you. If we miss out on Hill as well the melts will go down in bigfooty folklore.

We've been so s**t for so long that we finally had something to get excited about and we end up looking like such dicks haha.

TBH I'm more excited for Howard and Butler.

I'd rather we go after the 2 Toms (Cutler and Phillips) for the midfield given they would cost much less than Hill.

 

[St Neil]

Scenario for Bruce, Keath and Jones.

Dogs to send 13, 32 and 53 to Adelaide for 23, 28 and Keath (roughly pick 34 on the AFL Draft Value Index) . Dogs then send Pick 23 or 28 to St Kilda for Bruce which then goes to Sydney for Jones.

Would you sign up to that deal?

No. I’d want pick 13 to go to us rather than Adelaide.

 

[The Boar]

Ben would have been good but we really don't need him in terms of team balance.

Mids and skilled ball users for the next 2+ years of recruitment please.

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[Wright 1]

Lloyd and Damo discussed similar points. Lloyd seemed to be genuinely shocked that he did resign right now, and not wait and see how the first half of next year goes. But then they commented that he is no doubt going to be a wealthy man and that some of the extension will likely be paid this year, so essentially, instead of still getting his rookie contract wage, Ben will be making really, really good money in his second year.

Seems like Gold Coast made the offer extremely attractive and maybe Ben's parents and manager told him that it would be silly to reject it & that nothing is stopping him from requesting a trade next season.

I reckon this is on the money. I know for a fact his Dad was expecting him at Saints next year (going back 4-5 months ago)

 

[DarkSaint]

came here for the lols

lols will be when Dodoro bends you guys over for Daniher.

 

[Goddardwetrust]

Doesnt Satan and Gallagher know im a very important puppet, i haven't got time to keep refreshing..

 

[The_Snake26]

What about Tom Phillips instead of Hill?
Similar stats.....3 years younger....

Would he cost less trade wise? Would 12 get it done?

Was going to post this one myself. Very similar stats wise and is a few years younger. Would cost considerably less in a trade. I think a pick around 20-25 would get it done. Pies need cap space.
We should leak it to the media to get freo to sweat. It would also prompt Hills manager to fire up to get the deal done.
Geelong have the trade currency for Hill but not the cap space. That infos leaked to get us to sweat into getting the deal done.

Tom Phillips and Bradley Hill AFL Stats Comparison

Tom Phillips and Bradley Hill AFL Stats Comparison.

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[F_therest]

So do we now do 12 & next years first for Hill? Back ourselves in for a good year.
Next years first with all the concessions isn't likely to be a top 10 pick.

Pick 12 & 2020 1st rounder for Hill & Freo's 2nd rounder?

That would be somwhat similar to the Treloar & Shiel deals, but slightly cheaper as they went for top 10 picks.

 

[#gosaintas]

Phillips has no hurt factor at all. He's crap.

 

[TheEnsign]

Good business for Bing and GCS, hats' off to them.

He is clearly on decent coin (maybe not as much as reported, but would be good coin). GCS get to up his trade value if he wanted to leave prior to the end of the contract; and I suspect their cap may be a little like ours in that they're paying overs to some players; might as well be him.

 

[The Punter]

If Ben King leaves Gold Coast after next season, he never sees a cent of that contract from Gold Coast. His new deal starts after next season.

I just think he's effectively priced himself out of a return to St Kilda.

Oh, and a big yes to Tom Phillips if the pick is mid-20s.