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Even that is being generous. I would say more of a poor mans Parker.
Robertson has a more proven track record in the midfield.
Seems to have a lot in common with Parker actually.
With far less scope in my view. Flanders could be in the top 2 mids in this draft class. The ability to create space cannot be underestimated.
If we got a second Parker we’d have done well- through all his faults will be a 300 game player...
He seems to be much more of a forward though. Why are we considering drafting a forward and hoping he can get better in the midfield.
Problem with Parker is he peaked early and just did not come one like we all hoped he would. Good player when in form but more of a top 50 player in the competition type player.
Would be more than happy with Stephens as our second pick but he will be long gone before we pick at 29. He's likely to be in the late teens to early 20s. With our third pick, I'd go Ralph Smith before Dow.Hi Lads,
Sorry to intrude - I've been playing with my R1 & R2 mock for the past fortnight and really like where you guys have picks this year. Would you be happy with your selections if it played out like this? (Flanders, C. Stephens & Dow)
#1 - Gold Coast - Matt Rowell
#2 - Gold Coast - Noah Anderson
#3 - Melbourne - Luke Jackson
#4 - GWS - Lachie Ash
#5 - GWS (Matched Bid) - Tom Green
#6 - Sydney - Sam Flanders
#7 - Adelaide - Fischer McAsey
#8 - Fremantle - Hayden Young
#9 - Fremantle - Deven Robertson
#10 - Carlton - Dylan Stephens
#11 - Fremantle (Matched Bid) - Liam Henry
#12 - Melbourne - Kysaiah Pickett
#13 - Hawthorn - Brodie Kemp
#14 - Port - Caleb Serong
#15 - Bulldogs - Cody Weightman
#16 - Geelong - Miles Bergman
#17 - Gold Coast - Will Day
#18 - Port - Josh Worell
#19 - Geelong - Sam De Koning
#20 - Port - Trent Bianco
#21 - Richmond - Trent Rivers
#22 - Gold Coast - Will Gould
#23 - Brisbane - Jay Rantall
#24 - Adelaide - Harrison Jones
#25 - Adelaide - Harry Schoenberg
#26 - Hawthorn (Matched Bid) - Finn Maginess
#27 - Geelong - Cam Taheny
#28 - Port (Matched Bid) - Jackson Mead
#29 - Sydney - Cooper Stephens
#30 - Kangaroos - Dylan Williams
#31 - Kangaroos - Mitch O'Neill
#32 - Melbourne - Darcy Chirgwin
#33 - Brisbane - Jeremy Sharp
#34 - Kangaroos - Karl Finlay
#35 - Essendon - Mitch Georgiadis
#36 - Sydney - Thomson Dow
#37 - Essendon - Hugo Ralph-Smith
#38 - Brisbane - Luke Partington
#39 - Collingwood - Jake Riccardi
#40 - Geelong - Ryan Byrnes
#41 - Adelaide - Nick Bryan
#42 - Richmond - Elijah Taylor
#43 - Richmond - Emerson Jeka
Problem with Parker is he peaked early and just did not come one like we all hoped he would. Good player when in form but more of a top 50 player in the competition type player.
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It is interesting. I'm actually not fussed by which of Kemp, Flanders, Serong, Robertson or Stephens we take (i hope we take one of them, we need a good midfielder). At least one or two of them will be there at 9. So i wouldn't mind if we did trade down, but who knows what our recruiting department is thinking?Sorry don’t mean to intrude. The Swan TV mentioning of Kemp as a possible at 5 intrigues me. So does Dalrymple’s comment of ‘maximise value at every pick’.
If Kemp is in the mix at 5 for you he still will be later. Maybe much later? Maybe a little later?
Would a trade with Blues for 9 interest? Get Kemp and something more?
Don’t know. I guess you’ll have an eye to next year too with academy players coming through. I’m sure the Blues would at least throw in a second next year. Intriguing.It is interesting. I'm actually not fussed by which of Kemp, Flanders, Serong, Robertson or Stephens we take (i hope we take one of them, we need a good midfielder). At least one or two of them will be there at 9. So i wouldn't mind if we did trade down, but who knows what our recruiting department is thinking?
Why would you want to move up? Which player would you be after?Don’t know. I guess you’ll have an eye to next year too with academy players coming through. I’m sure the Blues would at least throw in a second next year. Intriguing.
Which game was this? There were only two games where Reid could have kicked 21 (WB and Freo) and neither of those games had the scoring run you described after Reid was switched to defence.It might be basic coaching but it is also negative coaching and can have the opposite effect than was meant. In one game this year Reid was sensational. He kicked 2.1 in less than ten minutes. He was hot. Suddenly he's in defence. They kicked 5-6 goals with him in defence. All they did was avoid him and kick to space as we were playing a zone. Absutely shocking. We lost the game of course. Could not get momentum back.
Young or Stephens I gather.Why would you want to move up? Which player would you be after?
Hi Lads,
Sorry to intrude - I've been playing with my R1 & R2 mock for the past fortnight and really like where you guys have picks this year. Would you be happy with your selections if it played out like this? (Flanders, C. Stephens & Dow)
#1 - Gold Coast - Matt Rowell
#2 - Gold Coast - Noah Anderson
#3 - Melbourne - Luke Jackson
#4 - GWS - Lachie Ash
#5 - GWS (Matched Bid) - Tom Green
#6 - Sydney - Sam Flanders
#7 - Adelaide - Fischer McAsey
#8 - Fremantle - Hayden Young
#9 - Fremantle - Deven Robertson
#10 - Carlton - Dylan Stephens
#11 - Fremantle (Matched Bid) - Liam Henry
#12 - Melbourne - Kysaiah Pickett
#13 - Hawthorn - Brodie Kemp
#14 - Port - Caleb Serong
#15 - Bulldogs - Cody Weightman
#16 - Geelong - Miles Bergman
#17 - Gold Coast - Will Day
#18 - Port - Josh Worell
#19 - Geelong - Sam De Koning
#20 - Port - Trent Bianco
#21 - Richmond - Trent Rivers
#22 - Gold Coast - Will Gould
#23 - Brisbane - Jay Rantall
#24 - Adelaide - Harrison Jones
#25 - Adelaide - Harry Schoenberg
#26 - Hawthorn (Matched Bid) - Finn Maginess
#27 - Geelong - Cam Taheny
#28 - Port (Matched Bid) - Jackson Mead
#29 - Sydney - Cooper Stephens
#30 - Kangaroos - Dylan Williams
#31 - Kangaroos - Mitch O'Neill
#32 - Melbourne - Darcy Chirgwin
#33 - Brisbane - Jeremy Sharp
#34 - Kangaroos - Karl Finlay
#35 - Essendon - Mitch Georgiadis
#36 - Sydney - Thomson Dow
#37 - Essendon - Hugo Ralph-Smith
#38 - Brisbane - Luke Partington
#39 - Collingwood - Jake Riccardi
#40 - Geelong - Ryan Byrnes
#41 - Adelaide - Nick Bryan
#42 - Richmond - Elijah Taylor
#43 - Richmond - Emerson Jeka
We are a better team for having Parker and we are closer to a flag with him than without him. Are we seriously having this discussion?A 250-300 gamer doesn't necessarily get you any closer to a flag.
The Swans seem to think there's a big drop in talent in this draft. I guess it really matters on Melb & GWS first pick as to whether we would consider trading downSorry don’t mean to intrude. The Swan TV mentioning of Kemp as a possible at 5 intrigues me. So does Dalrymple’s comment of ‘maximise value at every pick’.
If Kemp is in the mix at 5 for you he still will be later. Maybe much later? Maybe a little later?
Would a trade with Blues for 9 interest? Get Kemp and something more?
Gets you closer than a 25-30 gamer.A 250-300 gamer doesn't necessarily get you any closer to a flag.
Yes it would be really disappointing if we only got a top 50 player in the comp with our first pick this year.Problem with Parker is he peaked early and just did not come one like we all hoped he would. Good player when in form but more of a top 50 player in the competition type player.