List Mgmt. 2019 Draft Prospects

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Triple Baileys

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McLean's footy IQ is one of his stronger points, and I think his contested game is pretty underrated. I just feel he could end up exploring further opportunity due to the squeeze of spots. No one will touch the big 3 (Bont, Macrae, Dunkley) but we then have Libba, Wallis, Lipinski, Smith and McLean all competing for maybe 3 spots. Add West to that mix, and it wouldn't surprise me if someone is lost to explore more opportunity.
Every year, every team gets injuries. 4 or 5 injuries and we're playing Roarke. There will be heaps of opportunities for all of them to grab.
 

MrChristo

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I'm going to be very interested in Sharp's career. *

I would have liked to see us trade down to grab him with a pick...
...as it was of course, GC paid a significant price to get him.

* As well as Weightman's obviously!! Certainly no concerns over our boy... 😉
 

Virgin Dog

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Every year, every team gets injuries. 4 or 5 injuries and we're playing Roarke. There will be heaps of opportunities for all of them to grab.
That's fine and all, but if McLean is having to rely on others being injured for him to get a game, instead of securing his spot in our best 22, then it wouldn't surprise me to see him look elsewhere
 

dogwatch

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That's fine and all, but if McLean is having to rely on others being injured for him to get a game, instead of securing his spot in our best 22, then it wouldn't surprise me to see him look elsewhere
Or better still, rather than cracking the sh*ts, he realises he's no longer a walk up start and decides to do everything he can to lift his game.

The arrival of talented players at the club and vying for scarce spots in the seniors can never be a bad thing.
 

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Yojimbo

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Ben Cavarra: 173 cm 72 kg (Small Forward)
Buku Khamis: 189 cm 82 kg (Defender)
Callum Porter: 182 cm 76 kg (Midfielder)
Jordon Sweet: 203 cm 106 kg (Ruck God and all round nice guy)
Laitham Vandermeer: 180 cm 77 kg (Flanker)

Cody Weightman: 177 cm 73 kg (Small Forward, Love Island Fan)
Louis Butler: 183 cm 74 kg (Defender)
Riley Garcia: 175 cm 68 kg (Midfielder)

Who will be the first to play a senior game in the future ?

The fans they are excited,
They know they're in for a treat,
All aboard the train to greatness,
With the ruck god Jordon Sweet,
I hate to derail the train,
And leave you feeling devo,
But when it comes to monster rucks,
They are not rated by Bevo.
 

House_of_Dahl

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Ben Cavarra: 173 cm 72 kg (Small Forward)
Buku Khamis: 189 cm 82 kg (Defender)
Callum Porter: 182 cm 76 kg (Midfielder)
Jordon Sweet: 203 cm 106 kg (Ruck God and all round nice guy)
Laitham Vandermeer: 180 cm 77 kg (Flanker)

Cody Weightman: 177 cm 73 kg (Small Forward, Love Island Fan)
Louis Butler: 183 cm 74 kg (Defender)
Riley Garcia: 175 cm 68 kg (Midfielder)

Who will be the first to play a senior game in the future ?

The fans they are excited,
They know they're in for a treat,
All aboard the train to greatness,
With the ruck god Jordon Sweet,
I hate to derail the train,
And leave you feeling devo,
But when it comes to monster rucks,
They are not rated by Bevo.
Weightman and Cavarra
 

Fossie 32

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Ben Cavarra: 173 cm 72 kg (Small Forward)
Buku Khamis: 189 cm 82 kg (Defender)
Callum Porter: 182 cm 76 kg (Midfielder)
Jordon Sweet: 203 cm 106 kg (Ruck God and all round nice guy)
Laitham Vandermeer: 180 cm 77 kg (Flanker)

Cody Weightman: 177 cm 73 kg (Small Forward, Love Island Fan)
Louis Butler: 183 cm 74 kg (Defender)
Riley Garcia: 175 cm 68 kg (Midfielder)

Who will be the first to play a senior game in the future ?

The fans they are excited,
They know they're in for a treat,
All aboard the train to greatness,
With the ruck god Jordon Sweet,
I hate to derail the train,
And leave you feeling devo,
But when it comes to monster rucks,
They are not rated by Bevo.
'Stan' Butler
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weltschmerz

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Ben Cavarra: 173 cm 72 kg (Small Forward)
Buku Khamis: 189 cm 82 kg (Defender)
Callum Porter: 182 cm 76 kg (Midfielder)
Jordon Sweet: 203 cm 106 kg (Ruck God and all round nice guy)
Laitham Vandermeer: 180 cm 77 kg (Flanker)

Cody Weightman: 177 cm 73 kg (Small Forward, Love Island Fan)
Louis Butler: 183 cm 74 kg (Defender)
Riley Garcia: 175 cm 68 kg (Midfielder)

Who will be the first to play a senior game in the future ?

The fans they are excited,
They know they're in for a treat,
All aboard the train to greatness,
With the ruck god Jordon Sweet,
I hate to derail the train,
And leave you feeling devo,
But when it comes to monster rucks,
They are not rated by Bevo.
Gonna go out on a limb here and say Vandermeer.
 

Virgin Dog

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Or better still, rather than cracking the sh*ts, he realises he's no longer a walk up start and decides to do everything he can to lift his game.

The arrival of talented players at the club and vying for scarce spots in the seniors can never be a bad thing.
If someone's ceiling as a player is reached, and there is too much quality ahead, they may look to other teams that don't have the level of depth we have. He struggles for a spot in our side, yet he'd be a walk up start at Gold Coast, Sydney, Saints and Carlton, among others. And that's without a single ounce of improvement.

I'd much rather see him do his best to force us to select him each week, but if he starts to reach his ceiling as a player and still struggles for a consistent spot, looking elsewhere is a logical option. Sam Lloyd basically did that, and ended up rejuvenating his career with us despite arguably no improvement on his previous form
 

Mattdougie

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Ben Cavarra: 173 cm 72 kg (Small Forward)
Buku Khamis: 189 cm 82 kg (Defender)
Callum Porter: 182 cm 76 kg (Midfielder)
Jordon Sweet: 203 cm 106 kg (Ruck God and all round nice guy)
Laitham Vandermeer: 180 cm 77 kg (Flanker)

Cody Weightman: 177 cm 73 kg (Small Forward, Love Island Fan)
Louis Butler: 183 cm 74 kg (Defender)
Riley Garcia: 175 cm 68 kg (Midfielder)

Who will be the first to play a senior game in the future ?

The fans they are excited,
They know they're in for a treat,
All aboard the train to greatness,
With the ruck god Jordon Sweet,
I hate to derail the train,
And leave you feeling devo,
But when it comes to monster rucks,
They are not rated by Bevo.
Vandemeer is the stand out of that list
 

dogwatch

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If someone's ceiling as a player is reached, and there is too much quality ahead, they may look to other teams that don't have the level of depth we have. He struggles for a spot in our side, yet he'd be a walk up start at Gold Coast, Sydney, Saints and Carlton, among others. And that's without a single ounce of improvement.

I'd much rather see him do his best to force us to select him each week, but if he starts to reach his ceiling as a player and still struggles for a consistent spot, looking elsewhere is a logical option. Sam Lloyd basically did that, and ended up rejuvenating his career with us despite arguably no improvement on his previous form
IMO in 2019 McLean was playing below his previous best form. Let's see what happens when he plays up to the sort of form he's shown he's capable of.

After he's done that, let's consider his ceiling. I reckon he can improve further. He turns 24 in January so he should be entering his prime years.

If he's not able to do any of that, or if he's not prepared to and wants to leave, then I'm OK with him leaving. He finished 2019 as marginal best 22 despite some players being injured. He'd still be good trade currency at this age.
 

perro_loco

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I'd play Mclean over Wally, and suspect Libba's in decline (poor knees) - so that already puts him on the ground. Then if you throw in an inevitable injury and we actually need him. I'd be disappointed to lose him. But do understand he could be an unqualified lock at other clubs so could look around
Mclean, Libba and Wallis. Beware, Mr Garcia is coming for your spot in the team!
 

Mofra

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Gonna go out on a limb here and say Vandermeer.
I don't know how he tested, but he certainly plays quick, real quick. He was starting a bit behind most draftees but had some really impressive moments at VFL level. Just has 'something' that looks like it would translate well to AFL level. Still has work to do but that high forward/wing role would suit him as he'd really add outside speed to our side.
 

dogwatch

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Who thinks we went for need over "best available" when we selected Weightman? By that I don't just mean who you thought was best, but who the club assessed as best available (something we may never know with any certainty). Or to put it another way, do you think we "reached" for need in this draft?

Was Kemp best available? And if so, how much should having a ruptured ACL alter that judgement? Presumably they do some sort of risk assessment on such cases. It's interesting that having passed on Kemp we then traded up late in the draft to pick a kid who has just done his ACL. My guess is we're more inclined to take the risk with a late pick rather than a first rounder.

Was anyone else still available who we might have thought was better than Weightman? Worrell perhaps? Robertson?

I'm comfortable with our pick (but would have been OK if we'd decided on Kemp too). And judging from pre-draft discussions it seems that most on this board would have rated Kemp or Weightman the best of those left at pick 15.
 

weltschmerz

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I think Kemp has the highest ceiling of the draftees who were available at our pick. I also think Deven Robertson will be an elite player. Cody Weightman wa rated around our pick, we didn't reach. We could potentially have gotten a player rated higher, or a player who'll end up higher in the AFL rankings, but I think we chose the player who could have the most positive impact on our game in 2020.
 

Mofra

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Was anyone else still available who we might have thought was better than Weightman? Worrell perhaps? Robertson?

I'm comfortable with our pick (but would have been OK if we'd decided on Kemp too). And judging from pre-draft discussions it seems that most on this board would have rated Kemp or Weightman the best of those left at pick 15.
I rated Robertson best available, but the club disagreed and quite a few other clubs did too given he slipped outside the first round.

I wonder how much 'life' in the locker room has influenced recruiters too. Weightman is a high energy, bubbly guy and Garcia too. We lost Biggs, Redpath and Dahlhaus who were big personalities off field.
 
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