Not sold on any of those. Ballenden and Fullerton have great potential. Problem is Fullerton is very raw and ballenden couldn't break out of a wet paper bag if his life depended on it.
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2019 Draft thread
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Has anyone heard about the new seq juniors changes for next year.
No divisions
16 per side with six on the bench
Teams play in zones based on location to limit travel
Epoints
Could have a big impact on future drafting
No divisions
16 per side with six on the bench
Teams play in zones based on location to limit travel
Epoints
Could have a big impact on future drafting
Not from what I read this morning. More to do with being a relatively mature body and game already, less scope for future development, and perceived lower ceiling.
Basically high floor, low ceiling type player.
Gould admitted he pretty much partied most of the 9 days between winning the SANFL and the draft combine.
My concern there is not that he partied, but that it only took 9 days to put on the amount of weight, etc.
That said, he is back training and working on dropping the weight and skinfolds.
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As Briztoon said it was after two weeks of partying following the GF he'd played in. Still not a good sign that he rocked up to the combine like that. Clubs told him to get it below 58(?) as a minimum to be draftable. Two weeks of training post combine and he is meant to have dropped several kgs and skinfolds have dropped a bunch.
Sounds like he is someone that will naturally struggle to keep the weight off and will need to be very disciplined (diet and training) to have a proper AFL career. I can see why clubs are wary of his attitude though.
Even then he does sound like he has attributes that I'd be happy for us to draft. We have in the last cpl of years taken kids that we see as having more scope to improve in a professional setting
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Get set for draft night drama: Why clubs are holding fire on pick swaps
The interest in a talented Freo-linked forward shows why the big deals might not get done until draft night
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This might make dealing picks before the draft even more difficult.
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May not help with the Club trying to move some later picks either, considering we are currently only able to take the 4 picks to the draft.Get set for draft night drama: Why clubs are holding fire on pick swaps
The interest in a talented Freo-linked forward shows why the big deals might not get done until draft night
This might make dealing picks before the draft even more difficult.
Could make things interesting
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Yeah I'm all for drafting him. Pretty frustrating to see current AFL climates value "athletic" ability over footballing talent. This guy has massive upside. Jeremy McGovern wouldn't have the best skin folds in the comp. He seems to be going okay.
You don’t move skin folds from the 40’s to the 70’s in 9 days. 70’s is very bad and can’t be defended. He may have added 3mm in that time at best. The rest was there before hand.
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Yeah, that's more what I was actually thinking. We might end up being left holding some picks we can't trade, or take to the draft.May not help with the Club trying to move some later picks either, considering we are currently only able to take the 4 picks to the draft.
Could make things interesting
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Wasn't Hodgey a bit podgy when he was drafted?
I can’t find Gould’s time for the 2km time trial. Pretty sure it was 7:27-28 from memory.
For perspective, Rayner ran his 2km tt in 7:57.
For perspective, Rayner ran his 2km tt in 7:57.
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This is a ridiculously dumb decision by the AFL. They're giving teams matching bids two bites at the cherry.Get set for draft night drama: Why clubs are holding fire on pick swaps
The interest in a talented Freo-linked forward shows why the big deals might not get done until draft night
This might make dealing picks before the draft even more difficult.
Yep. If GWS can’t trade up to pick 4, you watch them trade back with Geelong, which probably gets them another pick around ~30.
And for Fremantle to trade with Gold Coast for 15 and 20. Mind I don’t mind Fremantle getting two picks then in the early 20’s as they likely go two WA boys we potentially aren’t looking at, in Sharp and Taylor.
Where as Gold Coast is a good chance to look at the same players as us.
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do you see us trying 16+21+34 for pick 6 ?
Father/Son doesn't trump NGAs. The kid gets to choose. Nick Blakey the prime (and recent) example. Father/Son through Brisbane and North, academy through Sydney... Elected to go to Sydney.
Nomination means nothing though - we nominated Marc Murphy, and he declined. We've nominated Lachie. Whether that means that Essendon won't, or that he'll accept the nomination - only time will tell.
Would they take the gc picks over that offer? What about our first rounders this year and next for 6 and a third?
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We didn't nominate Marc Murphy. The player's decision dictates whether or not a given club can nominate said player - Marc declined, so we didn't nominate him. If we're nominating Lachie and Essendon hasn't then he has accepted our nomination and either declined Essendon's, or they didn't approach him at all about nomination.
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That’s a lot to give up to get one pick in a draft where everyone says there’s only two top tier kids, Rowell and Anderson.
If Brodie Kemp hadn’t done his ACL possibly. But by the same token, Kemp probably would have been drafted at 3, or no later than Sydney at 5.
Think I’d rather keep 16 and 21. Unless GWS throw in a future 2nd round pick.
I don’t value pick 34 highly at all. It’s at a really bad spot in the draft. It’s outside the top 30 where most draft watchers say the decent talent runs out.
And you’re probably drafting a kid that’s no better than kids who will get drafted 10 or 20 picks later.
34 best value is to a team that needs points, and unfortunately this is a draft lacking in academy and father son kids.
However GWS probably can get better deals. 10 and 22 off Fremantle or 14 and 17 off Geelong.
If a bid came from Adelaide at pick 4.
The Fremantle trade would give them a residual pick 31, right where they could get a slider from the top 30. Fremantle probably asks for pick 40 in return as well.
The Geelong trade would give them a residual pick at 34, pushing our 34 back to 35. And Geelong isn’t asking for a later or future pick back.
We need to bundle up 34 with 52 or 55 and trade it for the best we can get in 2020. Future 2nd or 3rd round pick if possible. Would even take 4th at this stage. With the points discount, 48 will match a bid at 36 and 55 will match a bid at 41.
16, 21, 48 and 55 is reasonable draft hand. I guess the issue is finding someone prepared to trade a future pick. Still almost 2 weeks to try to do that.
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The problem with the logic that there’s only 30 good players in the draft is that it assumes everyone has the same top 30. We might have 30 kids that we rate but the chances are remote that it is the same 30 as other clubs have their eye on. It could well be that at our pick 34, there are a good half dozen kids that we like to pick from. And with live trading, we get to make that assessment on the night and respond accordingly.
Aggregating opinions and using them to reach conclusions of fact isn’t exactly the most reliable intelligence. Best to keep an open mind, particularly when we’re talking about matters of significant subjectivity.
Aggregating opinions and using them to reach conclusions of fact isn’t exactly the most reliable intelligence. Best to keep an open mind, particularly when we’re talking about matters of significant subjectivity.
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Unless you believe your opinions are facts, in which case everything else is irrelevant.
