2019 Draft thread

[PattyKwasagun]

If Twomey’s late mail phantom draft is close, I’d say it Trent Rivers and Jeremy Sharp look like the best possible outcome for our first two picks.

It would also tie in with our 'recruiting mates' approach (if that's ever actually been an official approach). We're lacking a bit in WA representation too so I don't mind that.

I get the feeling though that our first pick might - a little similarly to Smith last year - be someone more rated around the 30-40 mark by most pundits. Maybe even Sharp.

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

Dragging this thing out over two nights when your club doesn't have a first round pick and isn't likely to trade up is so ordinary. Especially when we pretty much know who the top ten will be.

 

[Mighty Lions]

It would also tie in with our 'recruiting mates' approach (if that's ever actually been an official approach). We're lacking a bit in WA representation too so I don't mind that.

I get the feeling though that our first pick might - a little similarly to Smith last year - be someone more rated around the 30-40 mark by most pundits. Maybe even Sharp.

Providing he is still around for our first pick, I would take Harry Shoenberg without hesitation. Awesome ball skills & almost always keeps his feet.

 

[Harris Specter]

Bit annoying how they have split the draft up to 2 nights. We may not even have anything to watch from a Lions perspective tonight.

I liked it better when they did the whole draft in 1 night, but with more focus and more time on the first round picks.

 

[briztoon]

Providing he is still around for our first pick, I would take Harry Shoenberg without hesitation. Awesome ball skills & almost always keeps his feet.

He’s probably still around at our second or third pick.

 

[briztoon]

Dragging this thing out over two nights when your club doesn't have a first round pick and isn't likely to trade up is so ordinary. Especially when we pretty much know who the top ten will be.

Could be worse. We could be St Kilda or West Coast.

 

[Mighty Lions]

He’s probably still around at our second or third pick.

Disagree but we will find out soon Briztoon. The Draft is very unpredictable.

 

[mpal6]

Not sure if posted already - from rumours thread in draft board

Rowell Anderson Jackson Ash Flanders McAsey Young Serong Stephens Green Pickett Bergman Weightman Robertson Kemp Henry

The 16 players invited to the first night of the draft tomorrow. Just confirmed by Twomey on the Countdown.

 

[M Malice]

Great article by our boy Mitch Robinson- Advice for draftees.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...s/news-story/eb1a1ef85799f17755c0f9f23868aa9f

What senior players notice from a mile away is the new crop of draftees’ professionalism.

You’ve just come straight out of school where your mum and dad practically wiped your arse. So from week one until Christmas break, your weekly schedule consists of surviving the vigorous three 12km-plus main training sessions and two off-leg workouts (boxing, bike, swimming). Oh, and welcome to the new weights program.

To the Brisbane Lions draftees: See you next week.

 

[spotthedog1]

You realise we traded pick 16 and 52 to Port.

Secondly Port won’t trade back because the whole reason they traded us pick 29 was to get ahead of a mid 20’s bid on Jackson Mead.

Thirdly that trade is basically Port giving us their 2020 future pick for a net over all loss.

Lol. No, I was just pulling out random things from an indicative draft order. Fair enough - it won't be Port. I wasn't thinking about it from their point of view at all. It just feels like we might go for 2 mid picks, 2 late picks, rather than 3 mid picks, 1 late pick.

As I've said, completely pulling this out of thin air, just the feeling I get.

 

[jackess]

Knightmares phantom has us taking Philp, Mahony, Brock Smith and Coleman.

Philp sounds a likely type and could be a good pickup if we don't get a slider. The other 2 seem like safe choices and don't really address our need for outside run, although Coleman does.

 

[bato]

Knightmares phantom has us taking Philp, Mahony, Brock Smith and Coleman.

Philp sounds a likely type and could be a good pickup if we don't get a slider. The other 2 seem like safe choices and don't really address our need for outside run, although Coleman does.

His name sounds like a typo. Not sure how I feel about this.

 

[LionCub29]

If Twomey’s late mail phantom draft is close, I’d say it Trent Rivers and Jeremy Sharp look like the best possible outcome for our first two picks.

Rivers might of played as a half back in the U18 champs, but at WA Colts he captained East Fremantle and played as an inside mid.

Rivers ceiling is as a taller version of Lachie Neale. He’s faster, but not fast if you understand, and is one of those players who seems to have time on his hands and always makes the right choice by hand or foot.

Sharp is also from East Fremantle, but played the season at WAFL level. He is genuinely outside, but has express pace, and when not pressured can kick very long and accurate. His floor is Tom Cutler. His ceiling is what we hoped Tom Cutler could be.

Interested to see you considering Sharp with our first 2 picks Briztoon. I know you were, understandably, concerned about his very outside game, but his pace and skills are difficult to overlook (particularly in the second round).

 

[dlanod]

Could be worse. We could be St Kilda or West Coast.

I think that's true even outside of the scope of a draft thread.

 

[briztoon]

Knightmares phantom has us taking Philp, Mahony, Brock Smith and Coleman.

Philp sounds a likely type and could be a good pickup if we don't get a slider. The other 2 seem like safe choices and don't really address our need for outside run, although Coleman does.

Ouch, that’s a worst case scenario type draft.

I’m in two minds how I view Knightmare. He sticks to his own opinions for most of the year, and then bang, right before the draft a lot of his rankings change to align with most other media and draft commentators.

Mahony is basically Lewy Taylor without the speed and elite evasiveness. Is an undersized mid who is also good as a small forward, lacks a penetrating kick, but has excellent vision and is a very good decision maker.

Philp is raw. He’s a beast who tested exceptionally well at the combine, can rip balls out of the contest and has top end break away speed, but then you close your eyes and pray he kicks in the general direction of a team mate.

Brock Smith, medium size defender who’s ok at a lot of things, but not great at anything. He’s a role player and high character kid.

 

[briztoon]

Disagree but we will find out soon Briztoon. The Draft is very unpredictable.

The earliest I see Schoenberg going is Adelaide at 22 or 23, but not sure they need another short inside mid.

Maybe Sydney or Geelong before our second pick if the focus on mids.

Has not been linked by anyone as a first round draft pick.

From my perspective, a lot of mids would have to have gone in the first round for us to consider him at our first pick.

 

[briztoon]

Interested to see you considering Sharp with our first 2 picks Briztoon. I know you were, understandably, concerned about his very outside game, but his pace and skills are difficult to overlook (particularly in the second round).

At pick 29, which will end up at 32 or 33, for me he’s clearly best available at that pick.

If we had held on to 16, along with 21, I’d be hell no. But you get to a point where talent our weighs the potential negatives, and I believe he’s simply better than anyone else likely still on board that late.

 

[briztoon]

Knightmares phantom has us taking Philp, Mahony, Brock Smith and Coleman.

Philp sounds a likely type and could be a good pickup if we don't get a slider. The other 2 seem like safe choices and don't really address our need for outside run, although Coleman does.

Also out of the main media draft watchers, Cal Twomey, Matt Balmer and Pete Williams, Knightmare is the least connected to club recruiters, players, player agents.

As an example, Pete Williams has been discussing Fremantle being strongly linked to Caleb Serong. The first thing he mentioned was talking to Serong last night, and saying that Serong had told him that Fremantle had told Serong they were going to draft him.

I’m not sure I’ve ever read Knightmare say he got x information from y person. But Twomey, Balmer and Williams certainly have their sources.

 

[Berrygood]

Lots of options coming into the next cpl of nights.

We could take the 3 best available with 21, 29, 34 and take coleman with our late pick. We may ask cumberland to play an overage yr with the academy like coleman did this year. He still gets the neafl experience, still in the system and we get another year to evaluate his progress. Win win.

We may decide to take just 2 best available and trade 29 or 34 for a future pick plus a later pick. Using the later picks to take both coleman and cumberland. We get 2 academy lads, 2 second rnd picks and stash away an extra 2nd or third for next year. A good win there.

Cant say who the best available 2 or 3 players we should pick depending on which scenario we take, but with a nod to the honest player evaluations by briztoon and friends i think we should do ok. Be it rivers, sharp, rantnall, gould etc.

I also think the only way we rookie list lachlan johnson is if archie smith gets an offer from somewhere else. I cant see the club breaking their word to corey lyons or sam skinner. Especially corey lyons, cant imagine it would sit well with his brother.

Looking fwd to the next cpl of nights and championing those selected into the pride.

 

[M Malice]

I notice that Cal Twomey's late mail/whispers phantom top 30 has us getting Trent Rivers at our 1st, would be the best possible likely outcome IMO although for me it'd be a difficult decision if Cooper Stephens was still on the board as well.

 

[mick1013]

For me i'd like to see Rivers, Rantall, Bianco Or Kemp available tomorrow night for us. Any of them I'd be happy with.

 

[mick1013]

Secondly Deven Robertson, some phantom drafts have him sliding to mid teens others have him freo pick 8-9. If he is there around pick 14-15 I'd love to see us trade up to get him. Big fan of him.

 

[bungalow_bill]

Philp is raw. He’s a beast who tested exceptionally well at the combine, can rip balls out of the contest and has top end break away speed, but then you close your eyes and pray he kicks in the general direction of a team mate.

So Dylan Shiel then?

 

[mpal6]

Waiting for the first round bolter who has been in fringes on everyone's list. Gold coast with 3 picks in top 15 can do whatever they like !

 

[Tom14]

Did anyone catch Stephen Conole on the draft countdown show on afl.com.au?