List Mgmt. 2019 Draft Thread

[hayes]

Where did you get this info from ,,

Bigfooty which makes it 100% true.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

He and Lonie are the exact reason we went and got Butler with elite pace and provides great forward pressure.

Gresham plays like a selfish U16 and as I said, similarly to Lonie provides poor forward pressure. If he ever gets himself truly fit and stops 'show boating' he could be elite, but he has a long way to go IMO.

If he's kicking 35 goals who bloody cares about forward pressure.
Goals are literally the game. If you lose the grand final, you don't get a medal for providing good forward pressure.
This year Gresham was second behind Kent for goal assists per game ( not counting Rowe ).
Others who assisted goals as much were Young, Newnes and Acres.

I don't buy the crap about Lonie either. I think you are talking about Lonie three seasons ago, certainly not Lonie at the start of season 2019.
None of our forwards did decent crumbing this year. Butler won't fix that.
Unless our talls mark everything that comes in, we're going to be stuck trying to turn over the ball on the way back out again.

 

[George]

Darragh Joyce elevated to the senior list, Nathan Brown 1 year deal official. Here is the updated list.

SENIOR LIST

1. Nicholas Coffield
2. Jake Carlisle
4. Jade Gresham
5. Shane Savage
6. Sebastian Ross
7. Luke Dunstan
9. Jack Steele
10. Dan Hannebery
11. Hunter Clark
12. Max King
13. Jack Lonie
14. Jarryn Geary
15. Jack Billings
17. Dylan Roberton
19. Rowan Marshall
21. Ben Long
22. Nathan J. Brown
23. Jack Bytel
24. Logan Austin
25. Dean Kent
26. Josh Battle
28. Tim Membrey
29. Jimmy Webster
30. Ed Phillips
33. Ben Paton
34. Matthew Parker
35. Jack Sinclair
36. Daniel McKenzie
38. Oscar Clavarino
39. Darragh Joyce
40. Nick Hind
43. Jonathon Marsh
N/A. Dougal Howard
N/A. Paddy Ryder
N/A. Brad Hill
N/A. Zak Jones
N/A. Dan Butler


ROOKIE LIST

44. Callum Wilkie (CAT A)
45. Sam Alabakis (CAT B)
46. Doulton Langlands (CAT A)
48. Jack Mayo (CAT A)

OUT OF CONTRACT
2020

2. Jake Carlisle - Link
5. Shane Savage - Link
9. Jack Steele - Link
13. Jack Lonie - Link
14. Jarryn Geary (UFA) - Link
22. Nathan J. Brown - Link
23. Jack Bytel - Link
24. Logan Austin - Link
26. Josh Battle - Link
30. Ed Phillips - Link
33. Ben Paton - Link
34. Matthew Parker - Link
38. Oscar Clavarino - Link
40. Nick Hind - Link
43. Jonathon Marsh - Link
45. Sam Alabakis - Link
46. Doulton Langlands - Link
48. Jack Mayo - Link





OUT OF CONTRACT
2021

1. Nicholas Coffield - Link
6. Sebastian Ross (RFA) - Link
7. Luke Dunstan - Link
11. Hunter Clark - Link
15. Jack Billings - Link
17. Dylan Roberton (RFA) - Link
25. Dean Kent - Link
28. Tim Membrey - Link
35. Jack Sinclair - Link
39. Darragh Joyce - Link
44. Callum Wilkie - Link





OUT OF CONTRACT
2022

12. Max King - Link
19. Rowan Marshall - Link
21. Ben Long - Link
29. Jimmy Webster (UFA) - Link
36. Daniel McKenzie - Link





OUT OF CONTRACT
2023

4. Jade Gresham - Link
10. Dan Hannebery - Link​

 

[George]

Max senior list size is 40. We have 37 at the moment. We will use a pick to upgrade Wilkie, and seemingly use the other two picks on kids.

 

[sammm]

Max senior list size is 40. We have 37 at the moment. We will use a pick to upgrade Wilkie, and seemingly use the other two picks on kids.

Does that means we can have 2 rookies as well?

 

[George]

Does that means we can have 2 rookies as well?

I think so. Max list size (Senior & Rookie) is 45 from memory. So we either max out the senior list at 45 and put 5 on the rookie list, or we leave one or two short on the senior list (say 38 or 39) and add extra to the rookie list.

 

[Saint believer]

I think so. Max list size (Senior & Rookie) is 45 from memory. So we either max out the senior list at 45 and put 5 on the rookie list, or we leave one or two short on the senior list (say 38 or 39) and add extra to the rookie list.

Will Biggy be seniors or rookie?

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Why upgrade Wilkie, just pay him a bit extra , then we can take someone in the draft in front of all the other rookie picks.

 

[George]

Will Biggy be seniors or rookie?

Category B rookie I believe.

 

[Lenny2020]

Category B rookie I believe.

Does he qualify? Not sure of the rules. I would’ve thought either primary list or category A rookie.

 

[Mindtraveller]

Does he qualify? Not sure of the rules. I would’ve thought either primary list or category A rookie.

I think if no one else nominates him in the national draft we can pick him up as a cat b rookie but I am unsure

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Category B rookie I believe.

It depends if another team bid on him in the draft. If so we have to match it with our next pick (s).
I'm not sure if he can clearly be taken as Cat B.

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Through 2015, the AFL developed a plan to enable all AFL clubs to establish similar academies, known as 'Next Generation Academies', with each club allocated a zone and juniors qualifying residentially. This was designed to give all clubs an incentive to invest directly in junior development, particularly focussing on diverse and indigenous backgrounds. As with the northern clubs' academies, a club will have the ability to draft its academy's graduates with a discounted draft pick, but will not have exclusive recruitment rights. In February 2016, the AFL announced the allocation of Victorian, Tasmanian and Northern Territorian zones amongst the ten Victorian clubs; unlike historical zones, not all clubs were given both a metropolitan and a country zone, with most clubs receiving either one or the other. [15]. North Melbourne was designated Tasmania at large.

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Cat B is for players taken outside the normal recruitment system for AFL players.
Biggy has played Junior and under 18's AFL so i doubt that he would be Cat B.

 

[Premium]

Rookie pick
surely can't be any worse than Longer and younger than Ryder


It's all smiles as Australia’s tallest man takes life in his stride
People staring, asking endless questions, making comments and selfie requests. At 223 centimetres, Kewal Shiels good-naturedly rises above it all.

By Konrad Marshall
Updated February 16, 2019 — 12.13amfirst published February 15, 2019 — 8.47amhttps://www.smh.com.au/business/com...e-most-private-retailers-20191028-p534vs.html


As the tallest man in Australia moves through the indoor shopping centre, a funny thing happens. It's not so much that everyone there (and I do mean every single person) freezes a moment to gawp, or glance askance, or nudge a friend with a sneaky elbow. No, it's the uniform facial expression they all wear. It's the smiles. Smiles as far the eye can see. Or rather, smiles as far as his eyes can see.

Kewal Shiels has held the mantle of tallest man in this country since the Australian Book of Records was first printed in 2017. Credit:Kristoffer Paulsen
The oversized existence of Kewal Shiels slices through the shoppers this busy weekday morning like the prow of a container ship, sending a sparkling ripple of toothy happiness across the bustling current of everyday commerce. People can't help themselves. As he lumbers among them they stand utterly dumbstruck, beaming, caught in a moment of dopey, reflexive awe. Shiels is an utterly likeable, softly spoken, kind and trustworthy 30-year-old former car salesman, motor-sport watcher and Kanye West fan, who lives alone in Pascoe Vale South in Melbourne's inner-suburban north-west, which is to say that he is mostly unremarkable.
Except, of course, for the fact he is seven foot three (223 centimetres) tall. Put another way, Shiels is roughly the same height as a female Asian elephant, and so people tend to grin whenever he is near them, lighting up with a kind of sweet, surprised delight, flickering en masse, like fireflies in a darkened field. "I do notice that," he says, as the spellbound crowd continues sneaking peeks. "When the stares get frustrating – and they do, sometimes – I try to remind myself of that. I try to take the attention with the spirit in which it's intended."
Shiels has been doing so with good grace all his life, because he knows no other life. He was never really allowed to be normal. When he was one, he looked like a terrible two. When he was two, he could pass for four. By the time he was in grade 6, he was more than six feet tall. That came with challenges, mostly around expectations.
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[borderbarry]

George, we dont need to use draft picks to up grade rookies anymore. Take note of Joyce this week.

 

[AirWinmar]

Seeing Newnes in a Blues polo makes me sick!!

 

[SMSBF]

Seeing Newnes in a Blues polo makes me sick!!

Really? It made me laugh out loud.

So we getting Masten ey. I guess hes better than Newnes.

 

[Saint_Dos]

Darragh Joyce elevated to the senior list, Nathan Brown 1 year deal official. Here is the updated list.

SENIOR LIST

1. Nicholas Coffield
2. Jake Carlisle
4. Jade Gresham
5. Shane Savage
6. Sebastian Ross
7. Luke Dunstan
9. Jack Steele
10. Dan Hannebery
11. Hunter Clark
12. Max King
13. Jack Lonie
14. Jarryn Geary
15. Jack Billings
17. Dylan Roberton
19. Rowan Marshall
21. Ben Long
22. Nathan J. Brown
23. Jack Bytel
24. Logan Austin
25. Dean Kent
26. Josh Battle
28. Tim Membrey
29. Jimmy Webster
30. Ed Phillips
33. Ben Paton
34. Matthew Parker
35. Jack Sinclair
36. Daniel McKenzie
38. Oscar Clavarino
39. Darragh Joyce
40. Nick Hind
43. Jonathon Marsh
N/A. Dougal Howard
N/A. Paddy Ryder
N/A. Brad Hill
N/A. Zak Jones
N/A. Dan Butler


ROOKIE LIST

44. Callum Wilkie (CAT A)
45. Sam Alabakis (CAT B)
46. Doulton Langlands (CAT A)
48. Jack Mayo (CAT A)

OUT OF CONTRACT
2020

2. Jake Carlisle - Link
5. Shane Savage - Link
9. Jack Steele - Link
13. Jack Lonie - Link
14. Jarryn Geary (UFA) - Link
22. Nathan J. Brown - Link
23. Jack Bytel - Link
24. Logan Austin - Link
26. Josh Battle - Link
30. Ed Phillips - Link
33. Ben Paton - Link
34. Matthew Parker - Link
38. Oscar Clavarino - Link
40. Nick Hind - Link
43. Jonathon Marsh - Link
45. Sam Alabakis - Link
46. Doulton Langlands - Link
48. Jack Mayo - Link





OUT OF CONTRACT
2021

1. Nicholas Coffield - Link
6. Sebastian Ross (RFA) - Link
7. Luke Dunstan - Link
11. Hunter Clark - Link
15. Jack Billings - Link
17. Dylan Roberton (RFA) - Link
25. Dean Kent - Link
28. Tim Membrey - Link
35. Jack Sinclair - Link
39. Darragh Joyce - Link
44. Callum Wilkie - Link





OUT OF CONTRACT
2022

12. Max King - Link
19. Rowan Marshall - Link
21. Ben Long - Link
29. Jimmy Webster (UFA) - Link
36. Daniel McKenzie - Link





OUT OF CONTRACT
2023

4. Jade Gresham - Link
10. Dan Hannebery - Link​

Pretty sure Marsh was signed on again as a rookie.

Rookie trio signs on

Rookie trio Jonathon Marsh, Doulton Langlands and Jack Mayo will remain in red, white and black in 2020 after signing one-year contracts.

www.saints.com.au

That would give us 4 senior list spots and 0 rookie spots assuming Wilkie stays on rookie list.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Darragh Joyce elevated to the senior list, Nathan Brown 1 year deal official. Here is the updated list.

SENIOR LIST

1. Nicholas Coffield
2. Jake Carlisle
4. Jade Gresham
5. Shane Savage
6. Sebastian Ross
7. Luke Dunstan
9. Jack Steele
10. Dan Hannebery
11. Hunter Clark
12. Max King
13. Jack Lonie
14. Jarryn Geary
15. Jack Billings
17. Dylan Roberton
19. Rowan Marshall
21. Ben Long
22. Nathan J. Brown
23. Jack Bytel
24. Logan Austin
25. Dean Kent
26. Josh Battle
28. Tim Membrey
29. Jimmy Webster
30. Ed Phillips
33. Ben Paton
34. Matthew Parker
35. Jack Sinclair
36. Daniel McKenzie
38. Oscar Clavarino
39. Darragh Joyce
40. Nick Hind
43. Jonathon Marsh
N/A. Dougal Howard
N/A. Paddy Ryder
N/A. Brad Hill
N/A. Zak Jones
N/A. Dan Butler


ROOKIE LIST

44. Callum Wilkie (CAT A)
45. Sam Alabakis (CAT B)
46. Doulton Langlands (CAT A)
48. Jack Mayo (CAT A)

OUT OF CONTRACT
2020

2. Jake Carlisle - Link
5. Shane Savage - Link
9. Jack Steele - Link
13. Jack Lonie - Link
14. Jarryn Geary (UFA) - Link
22. Nathan J. Brown - Link
23. Jack Bytel - Link
24. Logan Austin - Link
26. Josh Battle - Link
30. Ed Phillips - Link
33. Ben Paton - Link
34. Matthew Parker - Link
38. Oscar Clavarino - Link
40. Nick Hind - Link
43. Jonathon Marsh - Link
45. Sam Alabakis - Link
46. Doulton Langlands - Link
48. Jack Mayo - Link





OUT OF CONTRACT
2021

1. Nicholas Coffield - Link
6. Sebastian Ross (RFA) - Link
7. Luke Dunstan - Link
11. Hunter Clark - Link
15. Jack Billings - Link
17. Dylan Roberton (RFA) - Link
25. Dean Kent - Link
28. Tim Membrey - Link
35. Jack Sinclair - Link
39. Darragh Joyce - Link
44. Callum Wilkie - Link





OUT OF CONTRACT
2022

12. Max King - Link
19. Rowan Marshall - Link
21. Ben Long - Link
29. Jimmy Webster (UFA) - Link
36. Daniel McKenzie - Link





OUT OF CONTRACT
2023

4. Jade Gresham - Link
10. Dan Hannebery - Link​

Steele, Battle and Paton are the only real concerns from that long list of OOC's.
Our list is still thin by the looks of that, but the potential is still there at least..

 

[Crusty Undies]

Steele, Battle and Paton are the only real concerns from that long list of OOC's.
Our list is still thin by the looks of that, but the potential is still there at least..

Paton is an important OOC but not Carlisle?

 

[Crusty Undies]

Really? It made me laugh out loud.

So we getting Masten ey. I guess hes better than Newnes.

Is he though? 4 or 5 years older, injury and form problems, bad disposer etc. I'd rather have kept Newnes if we're going after Masten...

 

[L_W_P]

Is he though? 4 or 5 years older, injury and form problems, bad disposer etc. I'd rather have kept Newnes if we're going after Masten...

If we are bringing Masten it's more for the off field aspects I think. He gets a year or 2 on the list to push players like Paton and Phillips to be better than they are while bringing in the coaching/IP of a top shelf footy club.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Paton is an important OOC but not Carlisle?

Yes, l expect Jake to be on the trade table is all.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Yes, l expect Jake to be on the trade table is all.

I think you may be right.
What’s he got...a one year contract?
Like Bruce, he’s going to be our vehicle to improve our draft hand next year I think. And hopefully with Howard, Robbo, Wilkie etc we may not miss him as much.
Hope he has a great season to increase his trade value.

 

[Jade Buddha]

I think you may be right.
What’s he got...a one year contract?
Like Bruce, he’s going to be our vehicle to improve our draft hand next year I think. And hopefully with Howard, Robbo, Wilkie etc we may not miss him as much.
Hope he has a great season to increase his trade value.

Not to mention Joyce, whose just earned a two year contract, and Marsh.

 

[Flandersss]

Partington at 51 for me.

Another Hind will do aswell.