List Mgmt. 2019 Draft/Trade/FA Thread - Final Wrap

[eighties]

Pretty annoyed about losing Ah Chee. One of the only blokes on the list with pace and good disposal. Just couldnt get him on the park. Can see the commentators next year giving us shit for letting him go already!

 

[eighties]

A player with speed and skill, which is making us even worse off in an area we are already poor.
Who are these speedy, skilful players that we need to pay more to retain at Cal’s expense? Heron? Dawson? GHS? Murdoch?

Exactly!

 

[Mini GF]

Ah Chee to Brisbane is done, the offer is significantly better than what we were doing, he is a DEW fan so not leaving on bad terms just Brisbane throwing a lot more at him than we did.

i also was told that Martin was set to leave for quite a while which is not surprising but is a fact

More money? More years? Both?

 

[Johnny Bananas]

I would not take Masten or Gibbs. Masten is essentially another Corey Ellis. Just a bit better with some more experience.

So he's Corey Ellis except he has more ability and experience? Aren't those the two things the Suns need most? Masten isn't the most consistent player but he is a winner, he knows what it is to win a premiership. Given the rumour mill has linked the Suns to players in far worse physical condition like Jones and Betts, you could do worse than Masten.

Maybe Brisbane can be so kind and send our 2nd rounder back for Ah Chee

I doubt it. I think it's a reasonable price for Martin, but Ah Chee has fewer runs on the board. 35 & 42 seems more like his value.

 

[Supersuns]

So he's Corey Ellis except he has more ability and experience? Aren't those the two things the Suns need most? Masten isn't the most consistent player but he is a winner, he knows what it is to win a premiership. Given the rumour mill has linked the Suns to players in far worse physical condition like Jones and Betts, you could do worse than Masten.


I doubt it. I think it's a reasonable price for Martin, but Ah Chee has fewer runs on the board. 35 & 42 seems more like his value.

Ah Chee and our 3rd for our 2nd

 

[TheSunGod]

Pretty annoyed about losing Ah Chee. One of the only blokes on the list with pace and good disposal. Just couldnt get him on the park. Can see the commentators next year giving us s**t for letting him go already!

He’ll end up being a bigger loss for us than Lyons I feel. This has disaster written all over it. Would love to know the dollar differential and why the club has justified letting him go.

 

[eighties]

Imagine having to watch Ah Chee run around for the next 9 years injury free at Brisbane. Cant wait!!!!

 

[Mini GF]

So he's Corey Ellis except he has more ability and experience? Aren't those the two things the Suns need most? Masten isn't the most consistent player but he is a winner, he knows what it is to win a premiership. Given the rumour mill has linked the Suns to players in far worse physical condition like Jones and Betts, you could do worse than Masten.


I doubt it. I think it's a reasonable price for Martin, but Ah Chee has fewer runs on the board. 35 & 42 seems more like his value.

Martin is pick 6-10
Ah Chee 19-22

 

[SandyToes]

He’ll end up being a bigger loss for us than Lyons I feel. This has disaster written all over it. Would love to know the dollar differential and why the club has justified letting him go.

The IT guy has his fingerprints all over this I reckon

 

[Mini GF]

If he believed in himself, his mates and the cause then he’d back himself in, take the shorter contract and fight to make his next contract a more substantial pay day where he really cashes in on his ability.
He’s gone the soft option, easy success and longer contract with more money in the short term.

And that’s if and only if the latest conjecture is entirely true.....which it won’t be.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Martin is pick 6-10
Ah Chee 19-22

We'll see. Neither you nor I are making the decision. But I reckon my predictions are more accurate than yours.

 

[thurls64]

We keep throwing away talent and in this case talent that wanted to stay. Which is flabbergasting

I don't know yet if he had other reasons within the club to leave but I do know it isn't Stewie it may be we don't see value in him long term like Lions do, there were "some" personal issues going on with him this year so that's been kept very quiet
It's tough to know what to think especially when we resign Heron

 

[thurls64]

If he believed in himself, his mates and the cause then he’d back himself in, take the shorter contract and fight to make his next contract a more substantial pay day where he really cashes in on his ability.
He’s gone the soft option, easy success and longer contract with more money in the short term.

And that’s if and only if the latest conjecture is entirely true.....which it won’t be.

Bods, If you mean whether he goes to Lions or not I had it confirmed 100% by someone very close to him yesterday its done. They wouldn't tell me until he told the team he was looking at options but they knew beforehand

 

[thurls64]

More money? More years? Both?

as the mexican girl says "both" supposedly too good to turn down

 

[gcsunsfc]

It does annoy me that people go on about the departed suns players

Gws has also lost
Adam treloar
Dylan Shiel
Devon Smith
Taylor Adams
Josh Bruce
Will Hoskin elliott
Rory lobb
Jack Steele
Tom Boyd
Matthew Kennedy
Don Tyson
Will setterfield
Lachie plowman
Caleb marchbank
Paul ahern
Jon orourke
Tom bugg
Jack hombsch

And post inception their they have recruited
De boer
Tendai mzungu
Dylan Buckley
Lachie keefe
Mumford
Shaw
Simpson

Any others? Not exactly a distinguished lot.




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[kreglze]

Delidio?

 

[CommittedSuns]

It does annoy me that people go on about the departed suns players

Gws has also lost
Adam treloar
Dylan Shiel
Devon Smith
Taylor Adams
Josh Bruce
Will Hoskin elliott
Rory lobb
Jack Steele
Tom Boyd
Matthew Kennedy
Don Tyson
Will setterfield
Lachie plowman
Caleb marchbank
Paul ahern
Jon orourke
Tom bugg
Jack hombsch

And post inception their they have recruited
De boer
Tendai mzungu
Dylan Buckley
Lachie keefe
Mumford
Shaw
Simpson

Any others? Not exactly a distinguished lot.




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Missed a one Anthony Miles

 

[OB11]

We'll see. Neither you nor I are making the decision. But I reckon my predictions are more accurate than yours.

If Suns wanted to play hard ball and don't see value in pick 40 they could just send him to the draft and he could put a price on his head and see if he lasts to pick 40 in ND or to pick 15-16 in PSD for the Lions.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

If Suns wanted to play hard ball and don't see value in pick 40 they could just send him to the draft and he could put a price on his head and see if he lasts to pick 40 in ND or to pick 15-16 in PSD for the Lions.

They certainly could. But I'd only resort to that if the offer was really insulting. A late first or early second for Martin can bring in a player of similar proven ability at senior level, and that's nothing to sneer at. I think the same is true of Ah Chee for something around pick 30. Perhaps the club thinks that fair, perhaps they think it's insulting, who knows?

 

[Fat Pizza]

Brisbane supporters are already trawling through their Reserves side to see who they can swap for one of the most talented players on our list. I thought we were crazy to give away Lyons this year, but at least it made a bit of sense with our salary cap problem. Surely that problem's over now, after all the blokes we moved on last year. The only way this makes sense is if Cal's body is not up to it. He's had a few injuries, but they didn't seem too serious. I reckon he's still got a lot of AFL footy ahead of him.

As for Martin, his body language looked bad when I saw him in Melbourne a few weeks ago. He didn't seem part of the team at the Suns after-match function. He kept well away from the other players & they seemed to ignore him. It looked like everyone knew he was leaving.

 

[gcsunsfc]

Missed a one Anthony Miles

It's not as if we've recruited a number of guns but

Jarrod Witts
Lachie Weller
Pearce Hanley
Anthony Miles
GHS
Corey Ellis
Jack Hombsch
Jordan Murdoch
Aaron Young
Michael Barlow
Greg Broughton
Daniel Currie
Jarrad Grant
Tom Murphy



Looking up the other GiantsI had forgotten

Brett Deledio - as mentioned
Ryan Griffin
Joel Panful
Jonathan Giles
Josh Hunt
Steve Johnson
Brent Thornton


They've had bigger names but honestly, we've had guys who have contributed more I think.

 

[Mini GF]

They certainly could. But I'd only resort to that if the offer was really insulting. A late first or early second for Martin can bring in a player of similar proven ability at senior level, and that's nothing to sneer at. I think the same is true of Ah Chee for something around pick 30. Perhaps the club thinks that fair, perhaps they think it's insulting, who knows?

Martin Pick 6-10
Ah Chee pick 19-23
What you are saying is insulting when said on this board even though you normally are a legend.

You right now have your Lions hat on and want to feast on our difficult predicament.

 

[OB11]

They certainly could. But I'd only resort to that if the offer was really insulting. A late first or early second for Martin can bring in a player of similar proven ability at senior level, and that's nothing to sneer at. I think the same is true of Ah Chee for something around pick 30. Perhaps the club thinks that fair, perhaps they think it's insulting, who knows?

A balanced assessment by you.

I see Martin as 15-25
I see Ah Chee as 25-35

After Lions got Lyons for nothing last year there is a tax to pay in terms of what they need to give for Cal.

I would be asking the Lions to either split one of their top 20 picks to get us a top 30 pick or give us our 2nd back for Cal and our 3rd Rd pick.

 

[Suns of Anarchy]

A balanced assessment by you.

I see Martin as 15-25
I see Ah Chee as 25-35

After Lions got Lyons for nothing last year there is a tax to pay in terms of what they need to give for Cal.

I would be asking the Lions to either split one of their top 20 picks to get us a top 30 pick or give us our 2nd back for Cal and our 3rd Rd pick.

I'm in the same ball park with their value.
Trouble is, clubs elsewhere probably know we don't rate Cal by not offering a longer contract (if that's the case as suggested).
TBH I think Lewis Taylor is a better player than Cal.

 

[kreglze]

Lewis Taylor would be a decent call, he is a solid outside player who could do a job for us. Could be a cheaper answer to our outside issues than a B.Ellis. Has played well when the Lions have been struggling, pretty durable as well having played 19 or more games over the past 5 seasons. I would look at him for sure.