List Mgmt. 2019 Draft/Trade/FA Thread - Final Wrap

[Iva Bigun]

Sadly I’m as sober as a judge

Pissed as then going off resent decisions

 

[OB11]

My hopes of how the draft period will go for the Suns:

Out:

Trade out:

Martin > 21
Ah Chee >34

Picks:

1,2, 15, 20, 21, 34, 56

Gone (Seniors):

Leslie
Nutting
Crossley (can't see point of someone else's career ending if he is no chance to play next year - promise a rookie spot from him when cleared)

Gone (Rookies):

Fletcher
Wigg

Delist and re-rookie:

Nicholls
Schoenfeld
GHS

Rookie to Senior list:

Holman


Rookie list spots available:

4

In:

Pre-selected Rookies (2):

Rosas
Ace

Experienced Rookies (2):

Jack Trengove / experienced/delisted AFL player with 1-2 years left
Harley Bennell - roll the dice on x factor (if he stuffs up again off-field again you just cut him)


Senior list spots available:

8

Pre-selected Seniors (1):

Budarick


Free agent (1):

Ellis

Trade in (3):

Greenwood (Crows: pick 34 Suns: Future Crows 3rd pick)
Player X (pick 21) for example Isaac Smith or Conner Blakely
Player Y (worthy of GC future 2nd rd pick)


Either use picks 48 and 56 as part of player trades or trade for future picks / upgrade our future picks at trade deadline

Draft selections (3):

(1) Rowell, (2) Anderson, Pick 15 (Gould / Weightman / Luke Jackson / Dylan Williams / Trent Bianco)


At draft time trade pick 20 prior to start of 2nd rd for future selections (e.g future 1st from middling/strong club to get a player that they really rate who has not been selected on night 1 with our future 3rd pick also going back)


2020 picks:

GC 1st (1-3), assistance pick 10, future 1st (8-18), + Alex Davies

Fully loaded to make a godfather offer for Max King in 2020

Get Brad Crouch next year if required as a FA

 

[Jen2310]

Don't think Josh Gore deserves a spot?

 

[OB11]

Don't think Josh Gore deserves a spot?

Tough one - has done well and but with his style of play and physical traits his path to getting a game at AFL level is not as clear IMO.

 

[gcsunsfc]

Tough one - has done well and but with his style of play and physical traits his path to getting a game at AFL level is not as clear IMO.

Got some skills but he’s dan Menzel at 178cm not 186

 

[gcsunsfc]

My hopes of how the draft period will go for the Suns:

Out:

Trade out:

Martin > 21
Ah Chee >34

Picks:

1,2, 15, 20, 21, 34, 56

Gone (Seniors):

Leslie
Nutting
Crossley (can't see point of someone else's career ending if he is no chance to play next year - promise a rookie spot from him when cleared)

Gone (Rookies):

Fletcher
Wigg

Delist and re-rookie:

Nicholls
Schoenfeld
GHS

Rookie to Senior list:

Holman


Rookie list spots available:

4

In:

Pre-selected Rookies (2):

Rosas
Ace

Experienced Rookies (2):

Jack Trengove / experienced/delisted AFL player with 1-2 years left
Harley Bennell - roll the dice on x factor (if he stuffs up again off-field again you just cut him)


Senior list spots available:

8

Pre-selected Seniors (1):

Budarick


Free agent (1):

Ellis

Trade in (3):

Greenwood (Crows: pick 34 Suns: Future Crows 3rd pick)
Player X (pick 21) for example Isaac Smith or Conner Blakely
Player Y (worthy of GC future 2nd rd pick)


Either use picks 48 and 56 as part of player trades or trade for future picks / upgrade our future picks at trade deadline

Draft selections (3):

(1) Rowell, (2) Anderson, Pick 15 (Gould / Weightman / Luke Jackson / Dylan Williams / Trent Bianco)


At draft time trade pick 20 prior to start of 2nd rd for future selections (e.g future 1st from middling/strong club to get a player that they really rate who has not been selected on night 1 with our future 3rd pick also going back)


2020 picks:

GC 1st (1-3), assistance pick 10, future 1st (8-18), + Alex Davies

Fully loaded to make a godfather offer for Max King in 2020

Get Brad Crouch next year if required as a FA

You reckon we’d bring in weightman?
With sexton Ainsworth rankine rosas ace even budarick we’ve got some depth.
Seems we like his chirpy character as per twoomey Road to draft pod.

I think we should consider trading up to try get our pick 15 into the top 10 to snare Gould?
Give north Melbourne 15 and 2020 2nd/3rd for pick 9?

 

[gcsunsfc]

This is knightmares personal pre draft ranking from the two recent drafts.
Fair to say we’ve got some nuggets.

How good will it be to see rankine play!

 

[gcsunsfc]

There’s a video on ntfl Facebook site - dunno how to Copy it over on phone. From feb 2019. Rosas spent some time at BRISBANE and the suns. He was very quick to say he really liked it at BRISBANE. Few photos of him with Christensen, Cameron shown. Hopefully ours boys got around him too.

 

[thurls64]

Don't think Josh Gore deserves a spot?

Schoenfeld needs to be cut

 

[robo_1]

Experienced Rookies (2):

Jack Trengove / experienced/delisted AFL player with 1-2 years left
Harley Bennell - roll the dice on x factor (if he stuffs up again off-field again you just cut him)

Tell me if I’m wrong but I kind of feel if no other club picks up Bennell then we could possibly owe him at least a rookie spot for failing him in the early days.. clearly the club wasn’t set up with the right people around to support a kid with his type of off field issues and reports say since becoming a father he’s a changed person and just had an operation to fix his calf

 

[Greendogg]

Tell me if I’m wrong but I kind of feel if no other club picks up Bennell then we could possibly owe him at least a rookie spot for failing him in the early days.. clearly the club wasn’t set up with the right people around to support a kid with his type of off field issues and reports say since becoming a father he’s a changed person and just had an operation to fix his calf

I love Harley as much as the next bloke but we need to be certain he can get on the paddock. The last thing we need is another guy that is just in the rehab group every week, it becomes a culture, we need to kill that culture. It's the biggest think holding us back. Bringing Bennell back appears just romantic folly.
Give that spot to a hard trainer who will keep the squad honest.

 

[OB11]

You reckon we’d bring in weightman?
With sexton Ainsworth rankine rosas ace even budarick we’ve got some depth.
Seems we like his chirpy character as per twoomey Road to draft pod.

I think we should consider trading up to try get our pick 15 into the top 10 to snare Gould?
Give north Melbourne 15 and 2020 2nd/3rd for pick 9?

Wouldn't think that would.be enough for a team to give up a top 10 pick.

That may be just enough to get the Giants pick at 13.

Twomey has said on multiple times that we have been very interested in Weightman. If he's a gun then you get him as there are plenty of spots for a goalkicker for a team that doesn't kick many.

 

[gcsunsfc]

Wouldn't think that would.be enough for a team to give up a top 10 pick.

That may be just enough to get the Giants pick at 13.

Twomey has said on multiple times that we have been very interested in Weightman. If he's a gun then you get him as there are plenty of spots for a goalkicker for a team that doesn't kick many.

Add Macpherson who'll probably be pushed more to the forward line.
Yeah, if he kicks goals then sure. I've not seen him play. I had Ned Mchenry in my mind who is mainly just a pressure forward right? Don't think we really need that. If he is a goal kicker then can see more to that play.

You don't reckon that 15 2019 and 20ish in 2020 couldn't get us pick 9-10? this 2019?

 

[TheSunGod]

I love Harley as much as the next bloke but we need to be certain he can get on the paddock. The last thing we need is another guy that is just in the rehab group every week, it becomes a culture, we need to kill that culture. It's the biggest think holding us back. Bringing Bennell back appears just romantic folly.
Give that spot to a hard trainer who will keep the squad honest.

There was never any question about Harley’s ability to train hard but I know what you mean. Bonus is if we could keep him right, our skill levels would pick up at training and on field. Would love the fairytale story but can’t really see it happening myself.

 

[TheSunGod]

Wouldn't think that would.be enough for a team to give up a top 10 pick.

That may be just enough to get the Giants pick at 13.

Twomey has said on multiple times that we have been very interested in Weightman. If he's a gun then you get him as there are plenty of spots for a goalkicker for a team that doesn't kick many.

Weightman loves a surf too apparently.

 

[Mitchell54]

Player X (pick 21) for example Isaac Smith or Conner Blakely

I'd take that for Smith. We'd probably look to split it into later picks for points to match a bid for Maginness. We'd likely actually trade it to Richmond e.g 21 & 49 to Richmond for 38, 39 & 40.

Not sure if Freo would be happy to trade Blakely although it seems as though he can't quite find his place in the Freo side as they throw him around a bit.

 

[NOBBYS]

No chance Bennell will be drafted by the Suns.

 

[Mini GF]

No chance Bennell will be drafted by the Suns.

I’d like to put my Harley to Southport and get him a job/career pathway started and all going well we pick him in the mid season draft idea out there again

 

[TheGeneralmeg]

Got some skills but he’s dan Menzel at 178cm not 186

Apparently he is over 180cm now and tested well at the Combine so could go anywhere with his goal kicking record attracting attention . Conroy could be pre listed due to problems with your ruckman and finally the NT kid Jungfer could be a dark horse to be prelisted as he has a point of difference

 

[SandyToes]

I’d like to put my Harley to Southport and get him a job/career pathway started and all going well we pick him in the mid season draft idea out there again

Wheels has so much goodwill here
Do the Southport thing but with the Suns rehab team and a promise of mid year rookie if he's fit

 

[OB11]

Wheels has so much goodwill here
Do the Southport thing but with the Suns rehab team and a promise of mid year rookie if he's fit

You wonder if Dave (drafted together out of WA and both have Colin Young) and Harbs went in to bat for him with the new regime that they may have a cup of coffee with him.

 

[Sunstar]

Apparently he is over 180cm now and tested well at the Combine so could go anywhere with his goal kicking record attracting attention . Conroy could be pre listed due to problems with your ruckman and finally the NT kid Jungfer could be a dark horse to be prelisted as he has a point of difference

Gore played in the academy series with my son and definitely looks bigger now, like Aston Crosley (another option) he has a tall older brother so maybe there is scope for further growth. His highlight reel compares well with anyone in the draft. Conroy kicked three goals in an Allies trial game so may be a forward option and Jungfer was in the best in am Allies game so plenty of choices

 

[OB11]

I'd take that for Smith. We'd probably look to split it into later picks for points to match a bid for Maginness. We'd likely actually trade it to Richmond e.g 21 & 49 to Richmond for 38, 39 & 40.

Not sure if Freo would be happy to trade Blakely although it seems as though he can't quite find his place in the Freo side as they throw him around a bit.

I only mention Blakely as he may be on the outs with the playing list after an alleged attempted 'Wayne Carey's manoeuvre.

 

[OB11]

Add Macpherson who'll probably be pushed more to the forward line.
Yeah, if he kicks goals then sure. I've not seen him play. I had Ned Mchenry in my mind who is mainly just a pressure forward right? Don't think we really need that. If he is a goal kicker then can see more to that play.

You don't reckon that 15 2019 and 20ish in 2020 couldn't get us pick 9-10? this 2019?

Not really as there is a fair drop off IMO after 10 and a pick in the 20s in a compromised draft in 2020 doesn't justify the move unless you need to split picks for trades.

 

[Big Red Machine]

I’d like to put my Harley to Southport and get him a job/career pathway started and all going well we pick him in the mid season draft idea out there again

Wheels has so much goodwill here
Do the Southport thing but with the Suns rehab team and a promise of mid year rookie if he's fit

I agree with both you gents, Make him work for it but the pathway is there if his body is up to it and he wants it bad enough.

Be a movie worthy redemption story if he comes good but with little to no risk on our part.