Example you already lost respect of me, why I need self respect for myself. Self respect is not based on how people perceive me but how I see myself ethically. You can't please everyone in this money world. Even a delisted player like Barlow used ah chee as an eg that he don't know how to prepare himself professionally as AFL player.
We have enough light weights already - please look for bigger bodies in the guts.
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Well I would think if you are good mates with someone who is moving workplaces because he is getting better pay/job security and then you see the workplace try and make it hard for him even though he has seen out his contract, they might not think too highly of the organisation.
Mitch Hallahan Mk2?
Yes, in my opinion pick 15 is over but all Suns need to do is to say pick 15 or don't bother calling and then wait and Lions will cough it up in the end. Get the best possible deal in circumstances. It would also send a message to opposition that if you are after our players, it will not be easy for you and you will have to pay overs.
Very well said. It can’t be forgotten that the amount of money put into the development of the player must also be taken into account. When Des Headland left the Lions, I remember they wanted compensation for the estimated $1m invested in his development as part of the trade to Fremantle.
I think so, people want Big mid but look at Brisbane zorko, Neale, hardly any tall there. I get confuse with the big mid thing. Just play Ballard and Lukosius on both wing and brodie inside you get big mid.
Put simply Ah Chee has never lived up to his implied ability and been a relative failure for the team overall. Has ability no doubt but just never showed it over any period of time. He's doing a runner which isn't nice and we should try and get the best we can - 15 would be nice but Brisbane also probably realise he's not worth that. I'd look for a swap rather than a trade position - Eli Smith or Hinge for example. Bigger upside than Ah Chee and both should be on a similar level given their lack of games. Time will tell but Ah Chee's of the world are not required here.Lions can't afford to break their promise and would damage their reputation with players much more. It's not like we would be asking for pick 2
Yes, that would be my preferred option too. I would definitely talk to some of Lions young players waiting in NEAFL. Next year some of them will be waiting 3 years for opportunity.
Carlton Adelaide pick 8 will do
It may be tempting to believe so. However, from reports in the media and the knowledge on our own board, the Lions aren't having any problems attracting players. Weighing against any inability to strike a deal for an uncontracted Ah Chee would be the proven examples of being able to strike a deal for the contracted Neale and Cameron. I'm sure the Lions will deal reasonably for Ah Chee like they did in both those cases and come to some sort of agreement, but I don't see them being held to ransom on this either.
I understand there's a dislike of the Lions for getting the better end of the Lyons saga, and in your shoes I'd probably feel similarly. Let's also not rewrite history, however. The Lions weren't holding a metaphorical gun to Cameron's head and demanding he release Lyons on pain of a worse outcome. The Suns had every right to hold Lyons to his contract and chose not to do so, citing that he was going to struggle for a senior game and was blocking the development of younger players. At the time it may have made sense to release him, if it saved cap space on someone who wasn't in the best 22 this year anyway. And I did feel bad that we were getting him without the Suns receiving any compensation in return. But the most the Lions did was offer a potential deal to a fringe player, it's not like the Suns were being forced to accept it.
I'd be doing the same in your position. I doubt Corey Lyons or Ely will want to move to the Suns, but Keays, Ballenden, Skinner and even Cox might be open to it if they see a path to more playing time.
Asking in good faith here, which comments do you mean? I did a search for it and could only find him complimenting the Suns in general and Dew in particular.
Could you please explain why this is the case? His talent and body of work is what it is and the Lions are interested in acquiring him on that basis. What we do in the finals doesn't change that.
Lions and Lyons waited until after trade period to request to be de-listed - that's the issue. According to Suns list manager Suns told Lyons they were happy for him to explore trade but according to Lyons's agent there was no interest. Do you believe that? Lions could deal with Suns during trade period and offer future pick, whatever. It's not far fetched to speculate that Lions (Ambrogio) had an inside knowledge that Suns will de-list Lyons anyway for nothing so they initiated the process after trade period.
There are more valuable young players on your list waiting for opportunity. I agree I don't see them to go to Suns at the moment. But it would not surprise me if some of them leave next year to other teams if Lions still have no injuries and they don't play AFL. No promising player wants to get stuck in NEAFL for 3 years.
Quote is in Fagan's thread.
What are you asking? Why I think the Lions are drinking their own bath water, why they never played the top teams twice, why they never had injuries, or why a straight sets thumping might make you realise you need more talent coming in?
