List Mgmt. 2019 Draft/Trade/FA Thread - Final Wrap

[OB11]

Do we need to move up at all?

If the draft is even from 3 to 20 as some have suggested then take the picks we get for Martin and Achee to the draft

IMO

The tiers would be

1-2

Big gap

3-10

Not as big gap

10-15

Decent gap

15-30

 

[briztoon]

IMO

The tiers would be

1-2

Big gap

3-10

Not as big gap

10-15

Decent gap

15-30

I’m not sure the gap between the first two and the next 5 or so players is a big gap.

I do believe there’s a gap between the second and third group of players.

1-2

3-10

11-20’ish

21-35+


My swing players are Trent Rivers at 11 and Luke Jackson at 12. They could so easily join the second group.

 

[Jirik13]

1-2 -> 1-3 Rowell, Anderson, Green

 

[CanYouFeelTheSunburn]

 

[Scotty_222]

Mastern and Schofield from west coast have been told they can explore their options.
Didn’t someone say we we’re into Masten?

 

[kreglze]

Burgoyne news is good that we are still in talks, meaning that he is still keen to pursue it.

Ellis I wouldn't mind, as opposed to others who would flat out be against it.

Masten and Schofield are both solid players. Wouldn't be offering more than a couple of years to either but for 2 years they could do a job.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

If it's experience the Suns need, may as well choose Daisy Thomas over Masten or Schofield. He's playing better than either of them.

 

[eppo67]

It's also a bigger picture.
Do you know why Impey Martin and Winguard didn't nominate Bulldogs?

 

[eppo67]

If it's experience the Suns need, may as well choose Daisy Thomas over Masten or Schofield. He's playing better than either of them.

I wouldn't mind Daisy for a year or 2.

 

[NOBBYS]

Maybe its just me but I don't want anymore players that other clubs don't want.
They don't want them for a reason .
Reason not good enough.
Happy to look at VFL SAFL WAFL etc players who have never been drafted previously.
Watched Ellis closely Saturday night and its a definite no from me, has no qualities that will assist us.

 

[kreglze]

Daisy is interesting but he might not care for going on again.

 

[Jen2310]

Daisy is a good player. But I don't see it happening.

 

[kreglze]

Maybe its just me but I don't want anymore players that other clubs don't want.
They don't want them for a reason .
Reason not good enough.
Happy to look at VFL SAFL WAFL etc players who have never been drafted previously.
Watched Ellis closely Saturday night and its a definite no from me, has no qualities that will assist us.

The issue with that, is they haven't been drafted previously for a reason. Look at Corbett, can take a mark and run, but his goal kicking is a diabolical. Burgess has only just been ok.

We didn't want Lyons and looked what happened

Players like Masten have played 16 games this season for a premiership contender (not that I am totally advocating for him). Ellis currently a part of a team on a premiership push. And brings us outside run and dash, which IMO we don't have a lot of.

 

[Jen2310]

Also players with premiership/finals experience certainly help. They know what it involved and takes to succeed. So bringing in Ellis can only help.

 

[NOBBYS]

If we were getting Ellis for around $350k fair enough, if where paying $500k plus we are making in MY OPINION
a shocking decision which unfortunately we are famous for doing.
I have family members who go to all Richmond games and they don't rate Ellis at all, they reckon slight upgrade
on Corey Ellis -enough said.
Understand the club has to take risks but we are at a stage where wise choices are becoming paramount if we are
to improve .

 

[SandyToes]

If we were getting Ellis for around $350k fair enough, if where paying $500k plus we are making in MY OPINION
a shocking decision which unfortunately we are famous for doing.
I have family members who go to all Richmond games and they don't rate Ellis at all, they reckon slight upgrade
on Corey Ellis -enough said.
Understand the club has to take risks but we are at a stage where wise choices are becoming paramount if we are
to improve .

Not a fan, but there's a strong chance he'll be a dual Premiership player by October, so there is that

 

[GcSunsfan]

If we were getting Ellis for around $350k fair enough, if where paying $500k plus we are making in MY OPINION
a shocking decision which unfortunately we are famous for doing.
I have family members who go to all Richmond games and they don't rate Ellis at all, they reckon slight upgrade
on Corey Ellis -enough said.
Understand the club has to take risks but we are at a stage where wise choices are becoming paramount if we are
to improve .

Spot on.
Ellis would be a great pick us for our club but not at the current dollar value that’s been reported.
He’s a 350k-400k a year player not a 600k+

 

[kreglze]

With the way the CBA is going 350k is going to be under the average. I'm comfortable paying him 450k - 500k.

Martin probably takes a fair bit of cap space with him, and comparing the 2, Ellis has shown more than Martin to this point.

I can see us also heavily backending Burgoyne's deal when he is a coach for us as part of the soft cap.

 

[Suns of Anarchy]

The issue with that, is they haven't been drafted previously for a reason. Look at Corbett, can take a mark and run, but his goal kicking is a diabolical. Burgess has only just been ok.

We didn't want Lyons and looked what happened

Players like Masten have played 16 games this season for a premiership contender (not that I am totally advocating for him). Ellis currently a part of a team on a premiership push. And brings us outside run and dash, which IMO we don't have a lot of.

Corbett just got the yips in front of goal which is something he even admitted. Kicked 19.11 in the NEAFL and his goal kicking at Werribee before that was fine. I think he has the tools to make a very good AFL 3rd tall. The club are super excited with his progress. Quite a few clubs definitely would've drafted him.

 

[Suns of Anarchy]

With Pyke gone, you wonder what happens now with the Adelaide players linked to have been leaving.

 

[Peel67skin]

Some here criticise Corbett and Burgess for no reason, KPP or third tall take time. All this SANFL, WAFL, VFL players pre season preparation is a lot difference than AFL players like casboult who is in the system for a long time. They come free with cheap wages compare to shoemakers, casboult and even 2MP.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Happy to look at VFL SAFL WAFL etc players who have never been drafted previously.

Why, when they're being outperformed by players who have been on AFL lists previously? Bolton, Schloithe, Grigg, Partington and Colquhoun all carving up the WAFL and SANFL, all of whom have been passed over once at AFL level. Same for Sam Collins last year. Personally I would have signed Grigg last year and would definitely kick the tyres on Partington this year.

 

[Peel67skin]

Why?

Will VFL history repeat with 14 straight years of draft success?

Jake Riccardi is acutely aware of the significance of winning the Fothergill-Round-Mitchell Medal

m.afl.com.au

 

[Jen2310]

Burgoyne staying a hawk. Ugh

Signed a 1 year deal

Was a family thing. I guess was hard taking the kids out of melbourne at this point.

 

[Supersuns]

Burgoyne staying a hawk. Ugh

Signed a 1 year deal

Was a family thing. I guess was hard taking the kids out of melbourne at this point.

this is going to be a disappointing off season