List Mgmt. 2019 Draft/Trade/FA Thread - Final Wrap

[GcSunsfan]

 

[GcSunsfan]

 

[GcSunsfan]

I reckon we are a huge chance

 

[SandyToes]

Anyone know exactly what range of percentage, I assume, of a players contract an agent gets ongoing would like to know what the players give up out of their salary to the management companies

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[GC2015]

I reckon the situation in Adelaide is worse than we know and B Crouch would be looking for a deal to get out while keeping his nest warm there in case he cant ......….CEY gave them a pretty good spray about the camp and culture today already

Ironically, that infamous camp took place on the Gold Coast. A return to the scene of the crime could be on the cards for young Bradley.

 

[Deleted member 2402071]

Brad Crouch seems very unlikely now. Interesting though, Cameron makes it sounds like Brad is keen to come cos he mentioned him being a free agent next year as if we will just grab him then.

I actually feel like it will happen.

It’s seems the clubs are already talking about a possible trade scenario, which means Brouch has agreed to our offer.

We have numerous quality picks this year and next (obviously excluding 1 or 2), it’s just which picks we are willing to give up.

 

[GC2015]

I actually feel like it will happen.

It’s seems the clubs are already talking about a possible trade scenario, which means Brouch has agreed to our offer.

We have numerous quality picks this year and next (obviously excluding 1 or 2), it’s just which picks we are willing to give up.

I suppose if we back ourselves to rise up the ladder with Crouch and trade our 2020 first round pick to secure him then we have the security of pick 11 if it doesn't work out the way we hoped it would. Plus, we know we will be able to secure Alex Davies without using any picks and he's predicted to be a first round pick.

So access to Davies and pick 11 give us security if we have another bad year with Crouch on our list. Could be worth it if the club is willing to take the risk.

 

[Supersuns]

I suppose if we back ourselves to rise up the ladder with Crouch and trade our 2020 first round pick to secure him then we have the security of pick 11 if it doesn't work out the way we hoped it would. Plus, we know we will be able to secure Alex Davies without using any picks and he's predicted to be a first round pick.

So access to Davies and pick 11 give us security if we have another bad year with Crouch on our list. Could be worth it if the club is willing to take the risk.

I’d take the risk. We are getting plenty of young talent in this year, might as well jump the queue on Crouch and throw our 2020 first rounder at Adelaide. We still have some good picks next year plus Davies. Just covers us.
But if we don’t get crouch this year that’s fine cause he is shit and I don’t want him anyway

 

[SandyToes]

I’d take the risk. We are getting plenty of young talent in this year, might as well jump the queue on Crouch and throw our 2020 first rounder at Adelaide. We still have some good picks next year plus Davies. Just covers us.
But if we don’t get crouch this year that’s fine cause he is s**t and I don’t want him anyway

Everything after 15 is a roll of the dice IMO so if they can a work a deal that doesn't involve 1,2 or Lukosius I'd go for it

 

[GC2015]

I’d take the risk. We are getting plenty of young talent in this year, might as well jump the queue on Crouch and throw our 2020 first rounder at Adelaide. We still have some good picks next year plus Davies. Just covers us.
But if we don’t get crouch this year that’s fine cause he is s**t and I don’t want him anyway

How much better will Crouch make us? Is he the guy that will allow us to take full advantage of Witts' dominance in the ruck? If so, then we should absolutely get him in now while Witts is in his prime as a 27 year old.

 

[eppo67]

I reckon the situation in Adelaide is worse than we know and B Crouch would be looking for a deal to get out while keeping his nest warm there in case he cant ......….CEY gave them a pretty good spray about the camp and culture today already

Yes it was just ask JF seriously bad the reason he walked.
BTW you do realise we have JF who still has good relationships with numerous AFC players.
Biggest problem is AFC is in damage control big time and don't want to lose reigning B&F.
Crouch is keen however. Still a STRONG chance. Multiple picks NOT 1 OR 2 are being considered.
SO I'M TOLD.

 

[thurls64]

Everything after 15 is a roll of the dice IMO so if they can a work a deal that doesn't involve 1,2 or Lukosius I'd go for it

exactly

 

[thurls64]

Yes it was just ask JF seriously bad the reason he walked.
BTW you do realise we have JF who still has good relationships with numerous AFC players.
Biggest problem is AFC is in damage control big time and don't want to lose reigning B&F.
Crouch is keen however. Still a STRONG chance. Multiple picks NOT 1 OR 2 are being considered.
SO I'M TOLD.

Crows camp and culture via CEY

Ex-Crow Cam Ellis-Yolmen admits infamous pre-season camp ‘divided’ the players

Ex-Crow admits infamous pre-season camp ‘divided’ the players

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[thurls64]

so it may look like:

Ellis
Greenwood
Rowell
Anderson
B Crouch
Smith, Stretch, Newnes, Jenkins, Breust or Birchall

 

[Supersuns]

How much better will Crouch make us? Is he the guy that will allow us to take full advantage of Witts' dominance in the ruck? If so, then we should absolutely get him in now while Witts is in his prime as a 27 year old.

He has the explosion and power to break through contests and help us with clearances. Means Witts can probably be a bit more adventurous with his taps. Brodie could be similar if he continues his trajectory. Bowes will be an inside/outside balanced mid who can win either way, Ainsworth hopefully will be a Zorko like forward cum midfielder. We have the talent there just need them to take the level up. But yes crouch can help but he isn’t going to be the be all and end all. He is gonna need the players around him to help. If we get him hopefully that means me can some more of Plugger Swallow next year. He is great 1on1 up forward

 

[thurls64]

The Lions have offered Hawthorn free agent Grant Birchall a one-year deal says Jake Niall.

 

[thurls64]

He has the explosion and power to break through contests and help us with clearances. Means Witts can probably be a bit more adventurous with his taps. Brodie could be similar if he continues his trajectory. Bowes will be an inside/outside balanced mid who can win either way, Ainsworth hopefully will be a Zorko like forward cum midfielder. We have the talent there just need them to take the level up. But yes crouch can help but he isn’t going to be the be all and end all. He is gonna need the players around him to help. If we get him hopefully that means me can some more of Plugger Swallow next year. He is great 1on1 up forward

plus Rankine plus Greenwood in there

 

[Suns of Anarchy]

sounds like posturing on both sides, the sound bites that clubs throw out when they are chasing gun players are so fake they talk about "quick catch ups",
"chats", reaching out etc and they are busy with lots going in.………….FFS this is the time of year clubs have to make their targets stick and there is no way these deals get done without s**tloads of meetings. negotiations and wooing it drives me mad how blasé they all want to sound and how little discussions have been had

Anyone know exactly what range of percentage, I assume, of a players contract an agent gets ongoing would like to know what the players give up out of their salary to the management companies

I know a few who pay 2.5-3%. If they can get a mother deal of decent coin and length then it can stretch out to 5%.
15-20% for any promotional money they can get their player.

 

[Supersuns]

plus Rankine plus Greenwood in there

I reckon rankine plays forward almost 100% of the time next year. Yes he is a freak and he is quick but he won’t be a lot faster then players in the AFL compared to u/18s and NEAFL. Will take him a bit to learn when and how to use his pace. Will be electric to watch him though, his forward pressure looked better then advertised in the NEAFL

 

[exile]

newnes? that's a new one. is he available? could be a decent get.
i like the sound of smith/birchall for a year or two as well. don't think bruest would be gettable but wouldn't say no either.
don't rate jenkins.

 

[GC2015]

He has the explosion and power to break through contests and help us with clearances. Means Witts can probably be a bit more adventurous with his taps. Brodie could be similar if he continues his trajectory. Bowes will be an inside/outside balanced mid who can win either way, Ainsworth hopefully will be a Zorko like forward cum midfielder. We have the talent there just need them to take the level up. But yes crouch can help but he isn’t going to be the be all and end all. He is gonna need the players around him to help. If we get him hopefully that means me can some more of Plugger Swallow next year. He is great 1on1 up forward

Now that the Saints have officially made it known they will be chasing B.King for next year's trade period, there should be even more emphasis on bringing in the best players we can right now. If 2020 turns out the way 2019 did for us then I think we can say goodbye to at least one of King or Lukosius (and possibly both). Now is the time for us to strike otherwise we're just going to continue to lose our high end draft picks once their rookie contracts expire.

So that's another reason to bring in Crouch now instead of waiting until next year when he becomes a free agent.

 

[Jirik13]

I reckon rankine plays forward almost 100% of the time next year. Yes he is a freak and he is quick but he won’t be a lot faster then players in the AFL compared to u/18s and NEAFL. Will take him a bit to learn when and how to use his pace. Will be electric to watch him though, his forward pressure looked better then advertised in the NEAFL

As per Cameron, Rankine will be ultimately midfielder. I think in 2020, Rankine will get short burts in midfield, 10-20%. Eventually, in 2-3 years his clean hands, evasiveness, reading the game, speed will be fantastic attributes for our midfield.

 

[Unders00]

newnes? that's a new one. is he available? could be a decent get.
i like the sound of smith/birchall for a year or two as well. don't think bruest would be gettable but wouldn't say no either.
don't rate jenkins.

Newnes is a free agent, doesn't have heaps of interest from rival clubs

 

[perrdan09]

Hawks fan living on the Gold Coast.
I know its all a year a way, but I keep hearing the Saints coming after your King.

I can't help but think, why not offer the GC first pick of 2020 draft plus for their king, and a nice big contract for him to come up.
I know there is the go home factor, but make an offer he or the Saints find hard to refuse.
I would love to see the Suns go on the offensive with players, as much as they can

Rankin, Lukosius, Rowell, Anderson, King, King is a very, very nice base to build around.

I think crouch would be a great pickup for you guys aswell.

Good luck this trade period, i'm rooting for you guys to get on track and really turn it all around and find success.

 

[SandyToes]

Newnes is a free agent, doesn't have heaps of interest from rival clubs

no more superannuants please