2019 Draft

Frank Grimes

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1) you're not gunna find a replacement for dusty, he's a freak

2) Rance is arguably best full back ever, it's hardly a knock on Garth that he isn't at that level, noone else is either

3) Lynch is the reiwoldt replacement, and I wouldn't be shocked if Chol takes the gig as second forward when Jack leaves (needs to improve his marking, but his accuracy is bang on)

4) vlastuin is next captain imo, and we have plenty of mids coming through to replace Cotch as we saw this year
We are very unlikely to draft another player like Dusty. Especially with finishing high on the ladder and lack of early draft picks as a result. What the club needs to do as far as replacing Dusty when he retires in the future is to do via Free Agency or trade.

Regardless I think Dusty has another 3-4 years before his form drops noticably and about 5-6 before he retires.
 

Lsta062

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I actually like the idea of Balta on the wing, like Richo in his later days.

Ross I agree, and that's what this draft was about, getting more mids to come in behind him in 2-3 years

Remember we had Cotch, rance, and jack out for much of the season, and it was only when the replacements starting getting injured we really slumped.
I forgot that injuries to our best players was a thing this year. This season has turned into a bit of a blur for me. I even forgot we had Rance our for the whole year.

Balta is such an explosive player that I think a wing would suit him. I low key have a dream that he becomes a midfielder. His booming kick takes us straight to our forward line.

Yeah Ross is an accumulator in the midfield and has already stepped up in Cotch’s role as a teenager earlier this year
 

tigs2010

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So let's say we finish top 4 at a minimum and the Saints miss the finals and finish 10th? We would have picks 15 and 27? Either way it should be 2 picks inside 30. It's a good spot to be when lots of clubs will be after academy points.

Could see us bundling points for a top 10 pick easily. Good thing to have if we want to trade for a good player.
Bend GC over for pick 1. Delicious
 

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Grrr

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Nyoun would have slipped to the rookie draft surely?
Did we reach for him?
Perhaps because another club also thought the same. We can afford to take a punt given the strength of our list, and a 195cm well built good mover was a gamble they didn't want to lose.
 

JAKLAUGHING

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We do exactly what we did this year when Rance went down and everyone wrote us off. We change our structure and give opportunities to others who deserve it. do not forget that this year we won a GF with the worst injury list in the league for 12 rounds. We played 40 different players, which 35 will return/ Of the 5 that left only 1 (B.Ellis) was a starter.

I cant say i know squat of these kids overall, but i read our recruiting to be very much a blueprint for the future and where we see the game heading. Speed and quick hands. We won 2017 based on style over talent and i think we are already planning our next game changer. When drafting in from the top, on top of ridiculously compromised drafts - rebuilding without bottoming out will continue to be very hard. The only way you will maintain it is to evolve in style and be ahead of the curb. I think this draft shows a glimpse of that
Nailed it right there boyo.......that's exactly what's happening
Well then the RFC et al has to be very, very, very good at changing the direction of where the current AFL Football strategy and it's direction is heading...especially against 17 other competing professional clubs and the AFL (protecting 2 plastic franchises!) as well as it's biased tv interests...
And you-know-what...2 recent Premierships tells us we may have a very good chance at doing that...B2B here we come and for what follows! 👍;)👍
 

Lsta062

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We are very unlikely to draft another player like Dusty. Especially with finishing high on the ladder and lack of early draft picks as a result. What the club needs to do as far as replacing Dusty when he retires in the future is to do via Free Agency or trade.

Regardless I think Dusty has another 3-4 years before his form drops noticably and about 5-6 before he retires.
He was our last top 5 pick man, it’s been a while. Dusty-level players are generally accessible with only a top 4-5 pick. Vlastuin was the last top 10 pick we drafted if we think about it.

Makes you realise how long we’ve been up for
 

brahj

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Can't believe we didn't pick a player I heard of 5 mins ago based on a 1 minute highlight package. This club will never win a premiership. Disgusted.
I declare the 28th of November to officially be named, “y CoMe nO bIaNcO” Day, a celebration of the armchair recruiters who spent an afternoon on YouTube and a lifetime sniffing paint.
 

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Yeah seemed stupid. Heaps of risk in that trade for no guaranteed gain. Shouldn’t trade unless it’s for a clear benefit.


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It's the Saints 2nd round pick that we have got not the Pies so we should expect to improve at least 5 places, possibly up to 10. Not bad for dropping 1 spot in this years order for a player we weren't going to take.
 

Wacky Tiger

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It's the Saints 2nd round pick that we have got not the Pies so we should expect to improve at least 5 places, possibly up to 10. Not bad for dropping 1 spot in this years order for a player we weren't going to take.
SOS would be knighted by the media if he pulled that off


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matt_y106

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We are very unlikely to draft another player like Dusty. Especially with finishing high on the ladder and lack of early draft picks as a result. What the club needs to do as far as replacing Dusty when he retires in the future is to do via Free Agency or trade.

Regardless I think Dusty has another 3-4 years before his form drops noticably and about 5-6 before he retires.
Legitimately thing Dusty will play at this level until 30-31 until his form begins to drop (As you said)
But injuries aside, would have 8 years or so left at the top. Ablett is playing at 36, although a shadow of his former self. I don’t see why Dusty couldn’t be playing at a similar age.


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Calcium Man

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Just realised its the rookie draft today.

Who will be a 2020 premiership player you ask? Only Matty Clarke and his team know at this stage.
what about poor SOS, won’t be able to trade down his rookie pick to be just before us. Going to have to rely on his intelligence and research of his recruiters.

and the only thing that one recruiter was researching at U18 was the canteen menu.
 

Tiger_Of_Old

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Pretty clear we really wanted Martyn so bid on Cumberland expecting Brisbane to match. Meaning they wouldn’t have the points to match our bid for Martyn. U could see Thursfield move Cumberlands magnet up when Brissy didn’t match. Probably cost us Bianco so we did the trade then. A pretty major stuff up. Hope they learn a lesson from it.
Didn't cost us Bianco.If we wanted Bianco we wouldn't have traded with Pies or obviously taken him with the first of our 3 picks.
 

Drofder

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Geelong have 3 first round picks now. They now have pick 11 (Gold Coast compo), their first, and West Coast first.

They're in pole position.
Well they need to be because this is the last roll of the dice with their current, aged list. After 2020, they're sliding back big time. They might even slide in 2020 itself. They've got a fair bit of rebuilding to do after 2020.
 

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Because we needed that for Ralphsmith
Pretty clear that we didn't rate Bianco as high as we rated Cumberland Martyn & Ralphsmith or we would have taken him before all 3 of them when our first pick of the trio rolled around.
 

Grrr

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I tell you what Stack, Ross, RCD, Balta, Graham, CCJ and others of that vintage will not be happy. Instead of picking players more ready made like Thayen we went the speculative route for some that are 3-4 years away or not at all.

On top of that Ross and RCD has to compete with the likes of Dow, Cumberland and Marytn for similar spots in the middle at times.

We do not have a ready made Thayen to assist in the forward line without Townsend if we get into a few injuries and so forth either which might be the difference in a final.

I just do not understand the rationale, we have risks and weakness that have not been addressed.

Watching them play I get one of Cumberland and Martyn but not both.

What if we get a significant injury to JR or Martin regarding forward line effectiveness?
How are they 3-4 years away. Nyuon is obviously a project player, but he already a good size with great athleticism, so he may come on quicker than expected. If for example he took Astbury's roll down the back in the future, he is the right size and evidently reads the ball well in the air, much quicker and could be the negating type that Astbury is. Sure the class won't be there, but at the very least you have a player that could play on the Mason Cox monster forwards.

Dow will take a year or two, but none of our mids are going anywhere in a hurry. The other two look like strong bodied players so not that far away physically. Cumberland looks like a half back winger so perhaps destined for Houli's spot in a year or two and Martyn looks class.
 

Cotcho

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It is a bit of a worry that we wanted two players who have been under the noses of Brisbane all this time and they said no to both lol They obviously dont rate them that high. yikes
 

Tiger_Of_Old

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Given both clubs should finish high up the ladder, my point stands.
We slid down a spot today and could well slide down a spot or two next year.
Of course we could slide up a spot as well, but i just don't see any point in that trade at all.
Seems very odd.Might be a case of goodwill too the bank.
Next year we may call in that goodwill favor with Baxter & MJR.(Pies late picks)
 

Dragonfire

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Didn't cost us Bianco.If we wanted Bianco we wouldn't have traded with Pies or obviously taken him with the first of our 3 picks.
Yeh your probably right, however, I stand by the fact we were caught off guard when Brissy didn't match. Which means we were worried they would then match for Martyn or because we had another player we wanted for those 3 picks.
 

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