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RFCGloryJC said:
We don't really know how many more years Rance would play so I would like to see at least once tall KPD selected this year to support Grimes and Vlaustin.
In terms of midfield, we have far more depth, even Lambert could play foreseeably another six years to 34.
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Lambert and Grimes (even astbury) have missed a lot of AFL footy

they could keep going for a long time perhaps, due to missing a lot of the crash and bang

THE_GUN said:
Bolton , Naish , Turner

Looking like Dusty & Cotch might be struggling ;)
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Rioli & Bolton should look to turning into mids too...

stick dusty and chimp in fwd pockets
 
RFCGloryJC said:
We don't really know how many more years Rance would play so I would like to see at least one tall KPD selected this year to support Grimes and Vlaustin.
In terms of midfield, we have far more depth, even Lambert could play foreseeably another six years to 34.
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Hopefully Sam DeKoning is still there at our 2nd selection or we can trade up to the freo pick #22 but if not then Dyson Hidler or Charlie Comben is available at our pick #38
 
They're saying this is a midfielders draft but surely there's a promising kpd in amongst them that we could grab. Worrell, McA, TdK and some other later prospects. Let hope the crew pick up at least one good one.

For what it's worth I like Cooper Stephens but late, geez I hope Dimma makes a call and says he wants Kysiah Pickett. Little dynamo hard as nails and nephew of whispering death Byron. Dimma loves the Picketts.

We're in a position where we can make some luxurious calls with development kids.
 

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RFCGloryJC said:
Was going to add in terms of defender height.
Grimes 193 cm, Rance 194 cm, Astbury 195 cm, draft someone in that height range.
Yes. Lambert turns 28 in late November, could play another six years.
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YeOldTiger said:
They're saying this is a midfielders draft but surely there's a promising kpd in amongst them that we could grab. Worrell, McA, TdK and some other later prospects. Let hope the crew pick up at least one good one.
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i wonder if Richmond need a tall or small more. Obviously either would be nice, if the club thinks its a future potential A grader.

bigs:

Soldo 23, 204,
CCJ, 20, 200,
Chol, 22, 199
Nank, 25, 199
Astbury, 28, 195
Miller, 20, 195
Balta, 20, 194,
Rance, 30, 194
RCD, 19, 193 (growing?) (might be more suited to midfield)
Riewoldt, 31, 193
Grimes, 28, 193,
Garthwaite, 21, 192,
Broad, 26, 192,


(younger) smalls:

Turner, Ross, Enlglish, Stack, RCD, Higgins*, Naish, Bolton, DES, Graham, Baker, Rioli, George, Markov, Short, Aarts?, Vlastuin, Mcintosh, Prestia, Caddy, Pickett, Lambert,


YeOldTiger said:
For what it's worth I like Cooper Stephens but late, geez I hope Dimma makes a call and says he wants Kysiah Pickett. Little dynamo hard as nails and nephew of whispering death Byron. Dimma loves the Picketts.

We're in a position where we can make some luxurious calls with development kids.
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K Pickett looks a nice fit at 38/39/40, if we keep those picks. With Higgins being and unknown butler and townsend gone
 
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Draft for talent, trade for need. No reason to reach for a KPD if the players aren't there.

What are the odds we grab another small forward with one of our picks? :think:
 
RFCGloryJC said:
We don't really know how many more years Rance would play so I would like to see at least one tall KPD selected this year to support Grimes and Vlaustin.
In terms of midfield, we have far more depth, even Lambert could play foreseeably another six years to 34.
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I’d say we will , hasn’t been a focus last couple a drafts will be this year
 
There is a lag of 2-3 years to develop a tall KPD.
The Marshall book refers to the lag and how you have to prepare the players for eventuality in advance.
I am just basing my own case on the probability that Rance retires first of the stars.
Grimes is a great defender but if he or Vlaustin are injured then we are done.
They need assistance in the future.
Grimes, Rance and Astbury are all relatively tall, Astbury at almost 2 metres.
We certainly don't need midfielders or forwards at this stage, the first deficiency will come in defence.
A team is like a company, you don't duplicate roles.
 
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Always draft the best talent on your list and not needs

Whats the point of drafting a player as a KPD simply to fill a need in 2-3 years time as the chances are he will just be an average player that could struggle to get a game and/or a bust.

If the best talent are 4 mids at our picks then you take the 4 mids and deal with requirements accordingly, Free agency for Richmond will be a godsend as with where our club is at we wont need much to convince quality to join the biggest and best club in the land
 
THE_GUN said:
Always draft the best talent on your list and not needs

Whats the point of drafting a player as a KPD simply to fill a need in 2-3 years time as the chances are he will just be an average player that could struggle to get a game and/or a bust.

If the best talent are 4 mids at our picks then you take the 4 mids and deal with requirements accordingly, Free agency for Richmond will be a godsend as with where our club is at we wont need much to convince quality to join the biggest and best club in the land
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We have 4 picks in the top 40 or so. So you'd overlook a good kpd to develop playing under Rance, Grimes, Astbury, Broad in favour of a lesser quality mid? I'm saying out of those first four picks there will be a good young kpd. Why would we ignore that when we have a plethora of mids?

Chances are he might also turn out to be a gun. It looks like there's a couple of good young kpd's in this draft. Apart from some decent inside mids and a couple of running half backs at our first pick the mids look ho hum to me in this draft.
 
YeOldTiger said:
We have 4 picks in the top 40 or so. So you'd overlook a good kpd to develop playing under Rance, Grimes, Astbury, Broad in favour of a lesser quality mid? I'm saying out of those first four picks there will be a good young kpd. Why would we ignore that when we have a plethora of mids?

Chances are he might also turn out to be a gun. It looks like there's a couple of good young kpd's in this draft. Apart from some decent inside mids and a couple of running half backs at our first pick the mids look ho hum to me in this draft.
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Looks like you didnt read my post correctly

"If the best talent are 4 mids at our picks then you take the 4 mids and deal with requirements accordingly,
 

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RFCGloryJC said:
There is a lag of 2-3 years to develop a tall KPD.
The Marshall book refers to the lag and how you have to prepare the players for eventuality in advance.
I am just basing my own case on the probability that Rance retires first of the stars.
Grimes is a great defender but if he or Vlaustin are injured then we are done.
They need assistance in the future.
Grimes, Rance and Astbury are all relatively tall, Astbury at almost 2 metres.
We certainly don't need midfielders or forwards at this stage, the first deficiency will come in defence.
A team is like a company, you don't duplicate roles.
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With Rance's return I reckon Broad will lose his spot. So if one of the KPDs does get injured during the season Broad will be first in line. Garth second in line. I think Garth will go better this year. Or train Balta as a KPD, if we have an injury crisis. How long Rance plays on is a good qn He looked pretty involved with the players this season. If we don't win a flag this year he may call it a day. If we go back to back then none of the old players will want to retire. But Cotch & Houli would be first out. Cotch: body not up to it. Houli outside interests
 
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THE_GUN said:
Always draft the best talent on your list and not needs

Whats the point of drafting a player as a KPD simply to fill a need in 2-3 years time as the chances are he will just be an average player that could struggle to get a game and/or a bust.

If the best talent are 4 mids at our picks then you take the 4 mids and deal with requirements accordingly, Free agency for Richmond will be a godsend as with where our club is at we wont need much to convince quality to join the biggest and best club in the land
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When I was looking through the profiles to come up with my list, a lot of the phantoms had De Koning & Worral around the mark and I would be happy to take them if they were available with our first pick as I don't see either as a reach and there is the opportunity to grab some solid midfield/flanker types with our swag of picks at the end of the second round.
 
THE_GUN said:
I like the idea of Stephens, Ross , Collier-Dawkins , Graham in the square
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Just need an A+ grader amongst those lot.
Price we pay when being so successful.:trophy:
FA route will do. :)
 
THE_GUN said:
Nice article about Cooper stephens on the afl site

www.afl.com.au

Class of 2019: Broken leg gives top-25 prospect a new perspective

Cooper Stephens found a new way to get involved after injury wiped out the majority of his year
www.afl.com.au www.afl.com.au
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Big MoFo, looks a gun in the making...big bodied mid who doesn't mind being involved with coaching from the sidelines...fit right in at TigerLand!
Reckon after the way we walked in snaffled both Sydney/Pickett...other Clubs are going to play the long wait with their picks a s well!...may just miss out on the Tigers! Shame, looks a likely prospect...here's hoping!
 

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RFCGloryJC said:
Was going to add in terms of defender height.
Grimes 193 cm, Rance 194 cm, Astbury 195 cm, draft someone in that height range.
Yes. Lambert turns 28 in late November, could play another six years.
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Those Achilles of his may finally crumple under his enormous running loads from both games and training...I'm not so sure on lambert seeing out another 6 years! I hope your right though! 👍
 
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In terms of sheer numbers, we have more mids and forwards than KPDs.
You have to prioritise.
Of the three sectors, KPD is the key priority.
When Rance retires, we have Grimes and Vlaustin as the two key defenders, that's all we've got.
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Stack is 19, Bolton is 20 (21 in December), Rioli is 22, Castagna is 23.
Each could well play for a decade.
Flippant to claim we need more small forwards at this stage.
The first shortage will emerge in defence and that's where this year the priority should lie.
 

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