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No it doesnt. See: this morning.
AFLW 2019 Expansion - Welcome North/Tas and Geelong (WCE, GC, Rich, Stk in 2020)
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No it doesnt. See: this morning.
Hardly an indication of participation winning over anything else. For most given a chance it just mean the provisional licence given was being honoured. In Gold Coasts case they've been awarded a licence out of a completely misguided bat s**t crazy expansion mentality.
The player numbers might stack up, but the supporting numbers do not.
Richmond, Hawthorn and Essendon fan bases are ready to make an impact, particularly on a dollar level.
Unsure how heavily Gold Coast are going got be backed but when the men can't/barely get 10,000 to a game how the hell many are they expecting to a women's match up there?
Rediculous decision. Where are four teams supposed to find players in 2020? 150 extra players will be neeed.
Should have done it all at once. Declared all player contracts ended at the end of next year. The new teams will be highly uncompetitive and a lopsided league is much worse than an even, lower standard league.
Should have done it all at once. Declared all player contracts ended at the end of next year. The new teams will be highly uncompetitive and a lopsided league is much worse than an even, lower standard league.
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Dollar level isnt everything either. Yet.
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Last I checked, Victoria is getting 5x as many new teams as Queensland in the next 2 years? Bombers were also late to the party & as such will rightfully wait their turn.
Well it is and I look forward to copious amounts being thrown at this club to allow for it's survival and AFL saving face.
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Insight into the factors can be found via various avenues, including this thread. Whether you accept them is your call.
And a minor correction: You've said twice now that the Suns have been admitted ahead of the Tigers. Both teams are joining in 2020.
I am disappointed Essendon didn't get a look in, and to be honest I thought it might not happen until 2020, however don't mistake this stance for some one eyed view. This is purely about the AFL unnecessarily throwing time and money down a never ending drain that is the Gold Coast and it's rugby supporting populace. If you're expecting the Gold Coast women's team to be successful and capture the hearts and imaginations of the common throng then you are kidding yourself.
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The Eagles will be ready in 2020 - Good decision.
Their new $50 mil ground construction with the planned Womens Facilities at Lathlain Park has only just started and wont be ready until 2019.
Also another point to consider -The WA Footy Commission hopes to have 90,000 Womens participants by 2019 up from the current 70,000. They may not reach that figure but it gives another 3 years for the Womens and Girls base to grow and more importantly develop.
The local footy show called it as 2 for 2019 and 2 for 2020 but did not name clubs.
Their new $50 mil ground construction with the planned Womens Facilities at Lathlain Park has only just started and wont be ready until 2019.
Also another point to consider -The WA Footy Commission hopes to have 90,000 Womens participants by 2019 up from the current 70,000. They may not reach that figure but it gives another 3 years for the Womens and Girls base to grow and more importantly develop.
The local footy show called it as 2 for 2019 and 2 for 2020 but did not name clubs.
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I think you've used a bit too much mayonnaise on this.
Dees and Dogs did more than play one game.
Good luck with being included.
Not sure about the name of the team.
i thought i saw GCS for 2019. my mistake.
North over Richmond then.
Timing couldn't have been better for the Tigers team to join.
Barely or don't get 10,000? Averaged 13,662 home attendance this year even if we were awful on the pitch.
Why some people have a right to their opinion if we should/shouldn't have an AFLW license for 2020, please make sure you are accurate with your accusations.
4000 isn't that far off the mark. It's just that when you get 50,000 plus on average to a home and away game 4000 seems ridiculous to argue over.......
I totally agree to a mega club in AFL heartland like Essendon, 4000 is next to nothing but to a small club in its infancy, 4000 is a massive different, the difference between a 10,000 crowd and a 14,000 crowd is massive.
I'm happy that we have a license for 2020, and I can understand the trepidation by people as to why the Suns have an AFLW license over some AFL superpowers, but I think this is just the AFL trying to capitalise on the player base that is already there in QLD, and not send them off to play interstate.
Is it the right move? Who knows, when 2020 rolls around we will have a much clearer picture of the situation.
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So much sulking from the Essendon supporters in here, yet if their club had bothered to chase this from the outset instead of trying to bandwagon on after last season, they'd have a license. Today's outcome suggests that the AFL were very conscious of rewarding those teams with the provisional licenses who helped lay a competitive foundation for the league before it even existed.
That left one license, and creating a 50-50 split between Victorian and non-Victorian, as well as engaging a thriving participation market clearly outweighed adding just another big Victorian club. If anything, women's football could be the major factor that accelerates any growth in the expansion club fanbases.
That left one license, and creating a 50-50 split between Victorian and non-Victorian, as well as engaging a thriving participation market clearly outweighed adding just another big Victorian club. If anything, women's football could be the major factor that accelerates any growth in the expansion club fanbases.
I want it to be successful don't get me wrong, but I'm a cynic at heart and I just can't see it.
No problem, I am cynical about a lot of things, but I will defend the Suns to the hiltI want it to be successful don't get me wrong, but I'm a cynic at heart and I just can't see it.
Essendon were not financially capable at that time, nor was it an appropriate action to throw up their hand. More pressing issues caused by their own poor management took precedence and deserved Essendon's full attention. Hardly a bandwagon decision.
Well that's ****ed.
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I'd have thought an AFLW team would've been a welcome PR distraction from everything else, plus the initial bid process came fairly late in the drugs saga timeline (once everything but the player bans had played out). Additionally the bid could've been funded easily if Hird hadn't received that dumb extension.
That's obviously all hindsight, but if the club were serious about it, they could've got it done. Essendon blaming all that has always sounded like a convenient excuse for being late to the party.
As I said more pressing concerns required the club's attention. It doesn't get more simpler than that. We missed the boat as a result.
No one to blame but ourselves. We could've probably thrown a bid in, but it would not have been appropriate particularly in the eyes of many a member.
This might make some and yourself scoff, but Essendon is now a wonderfully run club as a result of it's past failures.
It always has to be that first before anything else.
A licence will come and when it does, it will be welcomed with open arms and great fervor from the club's supporters.
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They rewarded clubs that supported the original league and not those that tried to jump in on the coattails of the work done by others. What is so wrong about that?
Yep, the reason Gold Coast will have a team is to ensure to provide extra pathways for Queensland women's footballers
Youth Queensland teams are beating / pushing Vic country and metro teams....in 2020 there will be 8 vic teams and just 2 queensland teams. Crowds are great but it will be sponsorship and (hopefully) media rights that will be funding this for the foreseeable future
It goes against what Gil originally stated which is clubs financial status will also be a factor in handing out a license.
Not saying all these clubs arent worthy but you cannot say that GC and North wont need big handouts for the foreseeable future.
Essendon were going through the saga at the time which was our main focus. Once that was done, we then put our application in.
