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Patty_Moz said:
Sure it definitely seems that accountability is the most important aspect of our gameplan and there are a select few who are given a bit of leeway. I just think attacking football should be developed better within our team and all players should be given a license and mentality that it's ok to attack first.

Really throughout our time with RL no team would have been worried we'll smash them on the scoreboard. More that they will struggle to score because defense & accountability are our priority.

I think accountability and defense are important but also feel we are very much lacking in developing attacking players and gameplan, hence we have always been a low scoring side under RL.
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We also lacked the attacking cattle and more than one decent forward target for most of the last 3 years... The game plan cam be as smooth asa Rolls Royce but if you can’t execute it well you get the results we have seen through this period.

I am an optimist and have begun to believe that the overarching plan has been played out in front of us over the last few years without many of us seeing the bigger picture. We were never going to be in a position to contend again in this period so once there were enough wins in the bank Ross and the match committee started to experiment with players and positions. This is all a part of the bigger picture plan to contend in the next few years. Perhaps not next year but I would expect 2020 as a top 4 finish.

I am down for 10 -12 wins next year and hopefully close to a top 8 finish..
 
GoFreo4eva said:
We also lacked the attacking cattle and more than one decent forward target for most of the last 3 years... The game plan cam be as smooth asa Rolls Royce but if you can’t execute it well you get the results we have seen through this period.

I am an optimist and have begun to believe that the overarching plan has been played out in front of us over the last few years without many of us seeing the bigger picture. We were never going to be in a position to contend again in this period so once there were enough wins in the bank Ross and the match committee started to experiment with players and positions. This is all a part of the bigger picture plan to contend in the next few years. Perhaps not next year but I would expect 2020 as a top 4 finish.

I am down for 10 -12 wins next year and hopefully close to a top 8 finish..
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So, you're saying we tanked?
 

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yyou said:
have been a Docker fan since our team was announced, so have mostly suffered in my love for the team.
As a consequence, I expect nothing, but always hope for the best.
For me it's like buying a lotto ticket. You don't expect to win, but you live in hope :praying:
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:thumbsu:, I've been a supporter since 2000 but have adopted this mindset since 2007 (had so much hope after making the prelims in 06). It's done wonders for my mental health.
 
Could be me, but my expectations have risen since the start of the preseason already. First to fourth year players look in wonderful shape. If we get a surprise big improver from even one of Crowden, Swita or Tucker then obviously we look even better. Im tipping Swita is the surprise packet. If he could step up and Walters is freed up to play more midfield as a result then that would help cover the loss of Neale from the midfield in a major way. Logue is also effectively a recruit for season 2019 after not playing last season at AFL level. Hilly already on the track also a good sign. If he can get back to his best then that obviously is a massive positive as well for our 2019 chances.
 
Anyone follow the Squiggle? He has released some numbers for how his analysis sees next year.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...on-thread-and-other-analytics.1187002/page-42

It is quite depressing reading as it takes into account injuries and trades and we come out as third bottom with 8 wins. We always look poor in the Squiggle as it values scoring, but the numbers apparently say if you score fairly freely you will likely win more.

I find it interesting as Ross seems to be such a numbers man and very analytical, yet he just keeps trying to buck the trend on scoring.

I know we are working on more attack from our backline, but at some point I hope we work on more attack thru the middle of the ground and more scoring approaches in the forward 50.

I know everyone is feeling optimistic at this early stage in preseason. Still an alternative point of view gives something to talk about.
 
dockerfemme said:
Anyone follow the Squiggle? He has released some numbers for how his analysis sees next year.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...on-thread-and-other-analytics.1187002/page-42

It is quite depressing reading as it takes into account injuries and trades and we come out as third bottom with 8 wins. We always look poor in the Squiggle as it values scoring, but the numbers apparently say if you score fairly freely you will likely win more.

I find it interesting as Ross seems to be such a numbers man and very analytical, yet he just keeps trying to buck the trend on scoring.

I know we are working on more attack from our backline, but at some point I hope we work on more attack thru the middle of the ground and more scoring approaches in the forward 50.

I know everyone is feeling optimistic at this early stage in preseason. Still an alternative point of view gives something to talk about.
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If you are just worried about the gameplan, then that is an easy fix. I'd be more worried if the list was the issue, and we are looking like
being bottom 4 for a decade, like some other clubs.
No one saw GF wins for the dogs, tigers and even WC were 13th five years ago.
 
dockerfemme said:
Anyone follow the Squiggle? He has released some numbers for how his analysis sees next year.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...on-thread-and-other-analytics.1187002/page-42

It is quite depressing reading as it takes into account injuries and trades and we come out as third bottom with 8 wins. We always look poor in the Squiggle as it values scoring, but the numbers apparently say if you score fairly freely you will likely win more.

I find it interesting as Ross seems to be such a numbers man and very analytical, yet he just keeps trying to buck the trend on scoring.

I know we are working on more attack from our backline, but at some point I hope we work on more attack thru the middle of the ground and more scoring approaches in the forward 50.

I know everyone is feeling optimistic at this early stage in preseason. Still an alternative point of view gives something to talk about.
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Just had a look at that, I’m thinking Mr Squiggle is full of crapola.
 
Dale147 said:
Just had a look at that, I’m thinking Mr Squiggle is full of crapola.
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A team finishing bottom three with eight wins ever happened?

I has a look at this year’s - said we’d win eight games at 79% and finish third last. So we actually did worse percentage wise than predicted but finished two spots higher.
 
dockerfemme said:
Anyone follow the Squiggle? He has released some numbers for how his analysis sees next year.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...on-thread-and-other-analytics.1187002/page-42

It is quite depressing reading as it takes into account injuries and trades and we come out as third bottom with 8 wins. We always look poor in the Squiggle as it values scoring, but the numbers apparently say if you score fairly freely you will likely win more.

I find it interesting as Ross seems to be such a numbers man and very analytical, yet he just keeps trying to buck the trend on scoring.

I know we are working on more attack from our backline, but at some point I hope we work on more attack thru the middle of the ground and more scoring approaches in the forward 50.

I know everyone is feeling optimistic at this early stage in preseason. Still an alternative point of view gives something to talk about.
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Yeah but has RTB ever had a forward line like this at his disposal? He might just get addicted to booting goals.
 

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_007_ said:
I see that you're newish to Bigfooty so I will forgive this heresy one time.

The squiggle is really good, you should check it out.
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I think it’s fairer to say I’m a realist, how did he go picking West Coast last year, Richmond the year before and Doggies the year before that?
 
Dale147 said:
I think it’s fairer to say I’m a realist, how did he go picking West Coast last year, Richmond the year before and Doggies the year before that?
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Squiggle is a spreadsheet with numbers, rather than someone guestimating and is more about a spread of results indicating how good you are in attack/defence, averaging that in the course of time and giving a ladder position with win/loss. It's been quite good over the years, better than any commentator having a stab at it as it doesn't let the heart rule - but equally, it can't factor in changes of coaches/rules etc.

It predicted the ladder to have collingwood at 10 and wce to be 12, so they shouldn't have even been in the finals let alone playing off in a grand final ;) But it just needs a reviving cup of tea as it has ordinarily been quite good.

The one thing it illustrates really well is the strength of attack/defence of the last x (20?) years of grand finalists, compare your attack/defence to those trophy winners and it's a reality check as to how good your team is.
 
FreoMonocle said:
Squiggle is a spreadsheet with numbers, rather than someone guestimating and is more about a spread of results indicating how good you are in attack/defence, averaging that in the course of time and giving a ladder position with win/loss. It's been quite good over the years, better than any commentator having a stab at it as it doesn't let the heart rule - but equally, it can't factor in changes of coaches/rules etc.

It predicted the ladder to have collingwood at 10 and wce to be 12, so they shouldn't have even been in the finals let alone playing off in a grand final ;) But it just needs a reviving cup of tea as it has ordinarily been quite good.

The one thing it illustrates really well is the strength of attack/defence of the last x (20?) years of grand finalists, compare your attack/defence to those trophy winners and it's a reality check as to how good your team is.
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Good explanation. It was actually the Squiggle that made me strongly believe that we need a different, more attacking approach if we want to maximise our chances of a premiership.
 
Mr Squiggle was great at pictures and his assistants were just wow wee - well to 8 year olds they were.

And when he turned the picture the right way round, well it was magic.

Carry on.
 
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freoextra said:
Mr Squiggle was great at pictures and his assistants were just wow wee - well to a 8 year olds they were.

And when he turned the picture the right way round, well it was magic.

Carry on.
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We're all hoping we can turn around Mr Squiggle's drawing next season. "Hurrrrry Uuuuup!"
 
So this year's trade and draft period net list management:

OUT:
Apeness, Rixx, Sutcliffe, MJ, Neale, Grey, D Pearce, Spurr, Nads

IN:
Hogan, Lobb, Conca, Colyer, Sturt, Valente, Carter, Watson, Schultz, Bewley

I'm very happy with that! List is pretty well balanced now and average age means we should be climbing pretty quick. Expect us to be contending top 6 in 2020.
 
2018 Trade Period we did really well on recruiting Hogan,Lobb, Conca and Colyer :whitecheck:

2018 National and Rookie Drafts :whitecheck:

Guys training at Pre -Season :whitecheck:- Things are on the up!
2019 i'm feeling is going to be good one for us...that vibe

Peter Bell MVP
Rosich done well too
 

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