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Gresham and gray would also cost us the world unfortunately.
What would be overpaying in this instance? He's a $1m/year player.Cognilio would be a good addition but I don't like over paying for anyone.
It's the deals like Setterfield or Kennedy or Newman that can be just as valuable.
What would be overpaying in this instance? He's a $1m/year player.
He barracked for Carlton as a kid.Would love Grundy, but cannot see why he would leave Collingwood to come to Carlton..
And if anyone posts the old chestnut "but he barracked for Carlton as a kid", I'll ******* dead set spew.
He barracked for Carlton as a kid.
Please upload a video of you spewing as proof of you keeping your word.
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Better wording may be paying big money to bring in one player. Coniglio is a good player but I wouldn’t pay $1m etc. we have a group of players coming through that will cost a lot.
I personally like to keep bringing in talented players like Setterfield or even a Newman who will prove to be real value for money and will add to our list.
I have yet to see a real big money player take a side to a flag in the era of salary caps & the draft. I just don’t think it works
1 mill a year is fine if we can front load
5 year deal
1.5m
1.5m
666k
666k
666k
Simpson, Murphy and Kreuzer will all come off the books as well before Dow, Charlie, Setterfield etc start demanding giant paydays
Is the better value Cognilio for $5m over 5 years or get players like Setterfield, McGovern & Newman?
There is no bigger “Team” sport than AFL. I’m not one for paying huge money for one player. Coniglio is a very good player but IMO not worth the money. The player I would consider paying that or slightly more is Kelly and even then I’m uncomfortable out it.
An Ainsworth Brodie McLuggage Cerra etc may be much better value in terms of $ and draft picks.
Next year I hope we get another 2-3 good recruits and 3 talented young draftees
It will be interesting watching the trajectory of North Melbourne, while they have had a ping at the stars, they have taken a few from the top of the trees.Targeting players is just like the game, most times it is better to lower the eyes
McGovern would be on close to 800k, how do you think we got him to chose us? Plus we had to trade effectively 3 second rounders for him
Cog would come for nothing but cap space and I reckon we could facilitate that by frontloading his contact and not jepodise losing our youngsters to cap pressure.
If we got cog the midfield would be complete and wed only have to look at small forwards, maybe a young ruck and those positions are traditionally filled later in drafts.
McGovern would be on close to 800k, how do you think we got him to chose us? Plus we had to trade effectively 3 second rounders for him.
So we’ve already committed a lot of picks and money to someone already. Doing it again makes it even harder.
I was actually happy with the McGovern deal as he is 24, fills several needs and IMO we didn’t overpay.
It will be interesting watching the trajectory of North Melbourne, while they have had a ping at the stars, they have taken a few from the top of the trees.
Let's see how that pans out, as well as how competitive the Suns can be with state leaguers, recycled and kids filling most of it's list.
My comment was in relation to you alluding to getting cheap picks ups/money ball selections vs big money stars.
Never said that or saw it that way at all
“Is the better value Cognilio for $5m over 5 years or get players like Setterfield, McGovern & Newman?”
Can you clarify this?
North are intriguing, they have cut a fair bit of youth, while bringing in a decent amount of experience at all levels of quality. While some of those changes look good on paper, I actually have them as the biggest sliders
Fairly straight forward question isn't it? What would people prefer we do?
In a sport that requires you to have around 35 AFL standard players to be successful paying huge money for one player IMO is a big risk
But McGovern is on 800k isn't that huge money?
Cog would only be cap space that can be front loaded. 1mil is as high as id go
Kelly will attract 1.6mil offers, which will be too much as Cripps will likely be on the same
North are intriguing, they have cut a fair bit of youth, while bringing in a decent amount of experience at all levels of quality. While some of those changes look good on paper, I actually have them as the biggest sliders
Out: Jarrad Waite (retired), Billy Hartung (delisted), Tom Jeffries (delisted), Oscar Junker (delisted), Gordon Narrier (delisted), Daniel Nielson (delisted), Josh Williams (delisted), Mitchell Hibberd (delisted), Declan Mountford (delisted), Ryan Clarke (traded to Sydney Swans), Braydon Preuss (traded to Melbourne), Alex Morgan (delisted)
IN: Aaron Hall (traded from Gold Coast Suns), Dom Tyson (traded from Melbourne), Jasper Pittard (traded from Port Adelaide), Jared Polec (traded from Port Adelaide), Red Og Murphy (Category B rookie), Tarryn Thomas (national draft), Curtis Taylor (national draft), Bailey Scott (national draft), Joel Crocker (national draft), Tom McKenzie (rookie draft), Tom Wilkinson (rookie draft)
As for the Suns, they have certainly lost some top end talent, but I think they have strengthened their middle tier quality, while adding some great kids. The coming years are about stability
OUT: Matt Rosa (retired), Michael Barlow (delisted), Josh Jaska (delisted), Max Spencer (delisted), Mackenzie Willis (delisted), Tom Lynch (restricted free agent to Richmond), Aaron Hall (traded to North Melbourne), Jack Scrimshaw (traded to Hawthorn), Steven May (traded to Melbourne), Kade Kolodjashnij (traded to Melbourne), Jesse Lonergan (delisted), Jarryd Lyons (delisted free agent to Brisbane Lions)
IN: Corey Ellis (traded from Richmond), Anthony Miles (traded from Richmond), George Horlin-Smith (traded from Geelong), Jack Hombsch (traded from Port Adelaide), Chris Burgess (pre-listed state league player), Sam Collins (pre-listed state league player), Josh Corbett (pre-listed state league player), Jordan Murdoch (delisted free agent from Geelong), Jack Lukosius (national draft), Izak Rankine (national draft), Ben King (national draft), Jez McLennan (national draft), Caleb Graham (national draft)
North's ins are WAY ahead of their outs.
Gold Coast's ins are well below their outs (in the short term) but may come out in front if Luko/Rankine/King stay and do as well as hoped.