Preview 2019 Goodbye (To 2020) New; Preseason Discussion

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robbo1981

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We tried every forward he did nothing? Why the fu** is Bassett still our forwards coach? Surely you'd try a new voice in there that's actually familiar with playing forward and considering how shitful our forward efficiency is? How the hell can their not be a change there.. ?
Bassett shouldn't be anywhere near our forwards was a defender and coached a team to score 4 goals to 3.ffs I knew from the start it wouldn't work . Don't want him anywhere near Conner and Zak.
 

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We tried every forward he did nothing? Why the fu** is Bassett still our forwards coach? Surely you'd try a new voice in there that's actually familiar with playing forward and considering how shitful our forward efficiency is? How the hell can their not be a change there.. ?
Cmon man.

One of the best moves the coaches made was the Boak Ebert switcheroo.

Ebert was playing a good role up forward for us. He quite possibly wins our goal kicking if his year wasn’t knocked about by injury.
 

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Ebert was actually very good up forward before the concussion ruined him in round 7. He was averaging almost 2 goals a game in the first 6 and 20 touches. He also had 36 marks and 35 tackles across those 6 games. Pretty damn good return.
Yep, thought Bassett was clever to put him there. Ebert is a strong mark and a decent kick for goal (where he goes wrong is when he's running down the wing looking for a target). He had a bad year concussion wise and then did his knee. Good to see him at preseason early - with more time with the forwards over the next few months he'll be ready to go next year.
 

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Players to keep an eye on:

Patmore: Will he be a back flanker/winger/forward flanker like in 2018, or will he be a centre square mid in the SANFL like the 1st trial in 2019 before he did an ACL.
Watts: Can he come back and fill a 3rd tall defender spot, and can we fit both him and Hoff back there with 1 as a floating sweeper type?
Cox/Farrell/Woodcock/Motlop: Can any of these guys fill a forward spot in the AFL side?
Hayes: We've seen Ladhams at AFL level, but 2020 could be the year Hayes gets a game too.
Garner: Can he crack into the 22 and be a regular in the back pocket?
I reckon patmore will play some games in the afl, bonner was raving about his fitness levels already.

He looks a likely type, just hope he gets a run at it injury free.
 

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Ebert was actually very good up forward before the concussion ruined him in round 7. He was averaging almost 2 goals a game in the first 6 and 20 touches. He also had 36 marks and 35 tackles across those 6 games. Pretty damn good return.
Yeah, I have no issue with continuing to use Ebert as a forward. It's the 'key forward' bit I find concerning. Knowing this club, that's the sort of messaging that we'd usually follow up with Ebert playing CHF in Round 1 and Marshall stuck in the SANFL.
 

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Yep, thought Bassett was clever to put him there. Ebert is a strong mark and a decent kick for goal (where he goes wrong is when he's running down the wing looking for a target). He had a bad year concussion wise and then did his knee. Good to see him at preseason early - with more time with the forwards over the next few months he'll be ready to go next year.
How do you know it was Bassett"s idea?
 

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Ebert as a forward is fine. He has the Ebert genes of being a very good overhead mark, is reasonably reliable kick for goal and also removed from the midfield where, under pressure, has never been a particularly good decision maker. Those attributes, plus his aerobic capacity make him a difficult match-up for the opposition.

Ebert IS NOT a key forward and should never be considered anything more than the 4th-6th forward.
 

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Ebert's primary position should be forward, people need to remember that he's a turnover merchant in the midfield which is basically a nono at AFL these days since every club sets up for turnover goals.
Nobody is disputing that. It's just the labelling of him by Bassett as a KPF which gives cause for concern, given our propensity for allowing our legitimate KPFs to languish in the Sanfl in favour of shorter players. If Bassett had called Ebert a medium forward, people would be less concerned.
 

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Nobody is disputing that. It's just the labelling of him by Bassett as a KPF which gives cause for concern, given our propensity for allowing our legitimate KPFs to languish in the Sanfl in favour of shorter players. If Bassett had called Ebert a medium forward, people would be less concerned.
Didn't he say he was almost a KPF? So he wasn't really calling him a KPF at all.
 

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Didn't he say he was almost a KPF? So he wasn't really calling him a KPF at all.
Call him a medium forward then. Given Hinkley and Bassett's history with KPFs, I'm inclined to believe Ebert will be the tallest player in our forward line if Dixon goes down again.
 

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Yeah, I have no issue with continuing to use Ebert as a forward. It's the 'key forward' bit I find concerning. Knowing this club, that's the sort of messaging that we'd usually follow up with Ebert playing CHF in Round 1 and Marshall stuck in the SANFL.
This. Ebert/Wines playing pseudo lead up forward behind Dixon, Marhsall and Lycett/Ladhams/Hayes (presuming one of those 3 wouldbe on the bench) would stretch a lot of backlines to find a 3rd/4th defender to match it in the air with him one on one.
When it's Ebert on Grimes you might aswell pencil in the 3 brownlow votes
 

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Ebert as a forward works. Prior to his concussion, his stats for 2019 were:
Round 1: 23d, 1g, 9 marks, 2 contested
Round 2: 23d, 3.1g, 7 marks 2 contested
Round 3: 14d, 0.2g, 3 marks 1 contested
Round 4: 23d, 2.1g, 9 marks 1 contested
Round 5: 16d, 2.1g, 5 marks 2 contested
Round 6, 21d, 2.3g, 3 marks 1 contested.

I don't see him as a key forward, but by anyone's reckoning that's a solid contribution. I'm only piping up now because as a long time lurker and (very) occasional poster I've certainly noticed an increase in knee-jerk, negative responses on this board. Genuine, constructive criticism is warranted (e.g., f50 entry, forward setup, development of tall forwards, kinkley) but trashing the idea of Ebert as a forward when he was clearly one of our more consistent performers early this year is pretty average.
 

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