2019 Labor Leadership Non-Election - Albanese v Nobody

The next Labor leader should be...

  • Anthony Albanese

    Votes: 17 32.7%
  • Tanya Plibersek

    Votes: 5 9.6%
  • Jim Chalmers

    Votes: 11 21.2%
  • Chris Bowen

    Votes: 1 1.9%
  • Penny Wong

    Votes: 3 5.8%
  • Tony Burke

    Votes: 1 1.9%
  • Jason Clare

    Votes: 4 7.7%
  • Mark Butler

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Mark Dreyfus

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Ed Husic

    Votes: 2 3.8%
  • Richard Marles

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 6 11.5%
  • Joel Fitzgibbon

    Votes: 2 3.8%

  • Total voters
    52

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Gough

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Seeing as all we heard in the lead up to the election was people saying they'd vote Labor if Albo was leading a 2022 ALP victory is looking pretty good.
 

Belnakor

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Exactly. He's someone that's more appealing to Libs in terms of his personality just as Turnbull was more appealing to greenies/lefies. Doesn't mean Albo is a walk in for the next election though.
In both cases i'm not sure why the major parties give a fu** about the other parties opinion of their leader. Just like Labor voters wouldn't vote for Turnbull Liberals aren't going for Albanese.
 

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Caesar

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Listening to Joel Fitzgibbon on 7:30 tonight...wow...how long has it been since we've heard a Labor figure talking like an ADULT and not some snarky far-left teenager talking to their twitter audience for likes?

Joel should definitely nominate for leader. Even I'd vote for him over ScoMo's matey/folksy BS.
Trust you to hate all Labor politicians except the potentially corrupt ones.

Fitzgibbon is tainted with the Chinese scandal a few years back isn’t he?
Yes. He also arranged dodgy meetings between his brother's company and Defence officials when he was Minister.
 

Caesar

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rfctiger74 - are you able to clarify the ALP's factional and chamber rules around leadership?

e.g. it seems clear that Plibersek is ineligible for the Deputy Leadership because she and Albanese are both members of the Socialist Left. However most media outlets are tipping that Wong will retain the Senate Leadership even though she is from the same faction.

I am assuming that this means there is no restriction on both the Party Leader and the Senate Leader being from the same faction?

I am also assuming that the Senate Deputy must come from a different faction to the Senate Leader?

Do state subfactions play into this at all?
 

Ned_Flanders

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rfctiger74 - are you able to clarify the ALP's factional and chamber rules around leadership?

e.g. it seems clear that Plibersek is ineligible for the Deputy Leadership because she and Albanese are both members of the Socialist Left. However most media outlets are tipping that Wong will retain the Senate Leadership even though she is from the same faction.

I am assuming that this means there is no restriction on both the Party Leader and the Senate Leader being from the same faction?

I am also assuming that the Senate Deputy must come from a different faction to the Senate Leader?

Do state subfactions play into this at all?
I don't know the full details of the new rules (only rejoined recently and it was after they were brought in)

A lot of it is based upon convention rather than firm rule, so you do get horse trading as the factions try to ensure appropriate representation
 

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