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Betts I’m neither here nor there but I would probably prefer him on the list to Lang or Polson next season so would be happy enough for the club to delist one of them and bring him in.
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Is anybody able to let us know, how many list spots we have atm. So far we have thomas,fasolo,pickett,garlett,lobbe,kerr,schumacher and lebois off the list thats 8. Just not sure how it works with the likes of deluca and gibbons joining us half way through the year, and we have 5 on the rookie list already? I'm just trying to work out how many players we will probably be trading for and how many we'll take in the draft.
As it sits, Lebois leaving has us with the standard four rookies plus Owies as a category B. No rookie vacancy unless we promote someone or alter our divide.
Seven spots vacant on the main list at the moment, with three of them required for draft (and/or rookie upgrade)
Yeah, about right with a dozen “quality” games from himself. If we win those though, that’s borderline finals...
I think the basis could more well be the mentoring off-field and forward line teachings/nous brought to the club - including a coaching role post hanging up the boots.
33 currently on the main list
4 Cat A rookies
1 Cat B rookie
All depends on which break up we opt for now: 38/6/1 - 39/5/1 - 40/4/1
I doubt we'll be picking up 7 players by trade and draft to go onto the main list though.
Best guess would be 3 players via trade and 3 players at the ND, leaving one selection at RD.
Of course this changes should Casboult or Phillips move on, or should we have to trade a player.
Still unsure as to why we had to quit Schumacher so quickly.
At this stage in limbo unless others are traded.
Rookies: Deluca, Cottrell
OOC: Casboult (trigger), Phillips
Retired (5): Thomas, Fasolo, Lobbe, Pickett, Bugg
Delisted (4): Schumacher, Garlett, Kerr, Lebois
Senior List = 33 (incl Cas/Flip)
Rookies = 2 Gibbons, Goddard
Cat B = Owies
So 9 spots to sign up currently, incl carryover rookies.
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Re Cameron, I have never seen him play to be honest, (was probably getting a haircut
or something that game/career to date) Ruckman are strange beasts though and is the one key position that never develops as a normal footballer should/is expected to) That's why it is such a merry go round early days. If you can get him in cheap and he is a developed frame, at 25 he should be coming into the window where he could potentially come good. High risk, inexpensive, potentially high reward. Cost is key. The list is long of Rucks coming from nowhere to play a key role once a bit older.
Yep. I can't see why we are breaking balls to get a small forward in ahead of (still) the best crumbing forward in the game. We don't lose with Eddie. He will bring back those members from the wilderness and boost membership numbers. He will play the role we need for a couple of years until he retires, and it's time to get someone else, at which point I suspect we'll have a lot more players lining up to come to the club. When he's finished, he will be a great person to keep on for player development not to mention while he's playing. All this I for (I suspect) very low cost to the club.
We can't throw away a massive opportunity like that.
I really don't like the idea of recruiting a player that played 'x' role and turned them into a player that plays the 'y' role...........but -
If we are taking on Papley and Martin and then still reeling in Butler and maybe even Betts, something has to give.
Is it possible that we've sold the notion of Martin playing in our backline?
I'm likely miles off, but I can now see Martin being that exit-player we've been craving for and especially so as Simpson will surely be in his last year and output may drop-off through the course of the year. Maybe?
If we are taking on Papley and Martin and then still reeling in Butler and maybe even Betts, something has to give.
Is it possible that we've sold the notion of Martin playing in our backline?
I'm likely miles off, but I can now see Martin being that exit-player we've been craving for and especially so as Simpson will surely be in his last year and output may drop-off through the course of the year. Maybe?
Thought it was raised by someone a while back that J.Martin could be direct replacement for Daisy..?
There’s also Papley as a majority midfielder.
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Or we are aiming to return SPS to the midfield. Martin makes sense across a number of scenarios.
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Martin high HF/wing.
Papley deep forward with stints up the ground.
Betts/Butler pistols at dawn for the other forward pocket, or both getting games should Cuningham have another injury-affected season.
I'd hope if we're bringing Butler in he's not getting promised senior game time. The contract and trade terms to get him across wouldn't be indicative of a walk-up start, so he'd be leaving a club where he's behind 5 or 6 other blokes, to be in the only 3-4 in that role instead. Better odds of getting a game, but no guarantees.
I don't think any club in the comp would be able to give him a better shot than he'd get at Carlton, but it would be up to him to earn it.
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We all love Eddie, however, given we aren't yet in "win now" mode, Butler or another small forward with a bit more tread on the tyres would likely be preferable from a list management perspective.
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We arent?
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Why would we? He has played far better playing of halfback than he has through the midfield.
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Or two? Why not? Still have him ahead of Butler in any case.
I don’t love Eddie.
Far better or is it just a bit easier for him to find the ball? Still think his most inflential work is in the middle, his best game was in the middle, and maybe another pre season gets him there permanently.
Plus the imminent return of Docherty and likely inclusion of Martin causes a reshuffle.
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I certainly don't see Martin playing off half back. I also am far from bullish about Docherty's return. He wont have played for more than two years. Far from convinced he will be anything like he was previously.
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Legit getting excited by our 2020 prospects with Martin and Papley hopefully joining the team. We already have so much improvement in our forwards just from getting a full preseason/season into/out of Charlie, Harry, Gov and Cuningham. Just imagining two other dangerous smalls who like kicking goals along with a full preseason under Teague who can develop and train up his more attacking game style... just give us the cup.
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How Doc returns isn't the question...yet. If he gets through pre season he will have a spot waiting, and will be given time to make it his again.
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Say if we have all 8 of MM, Curnow, McKay, Papley, Cuningham, Butler, Betts and Martin in the same side. Assuming be just rotate starting mids from the bench, maybe HB.
Then let’s pretend a game goes for 100min. If the six starting forwards play 80min each game time than we are left with 120min of game time to share between two of the above 8 who started on the bench, then assume players like Papley and Martin play 60min each forward and 20 min each up the ground then that pretty much equals all 8 playing 80% game time in the forward line. Proper forwards playing forward.
It can work. Also if say Harry chops out in the ruck for say 15% of the game that gives us 15% of game time to try another player down there, maybe Cripps forward for example. Same goes if we want to push MM back. Plenty of ways to make it work. I actually love it because we will have specialist players in every position.
Then let’s pretend a game goes for 100min. If the six starting forwards play 80min each game time than we are left with 120min of game time to share between two of the above 8 who started on the bench, then assume players like Papley and Martin play 60min each forward and 20 min each up the ground then that pretty much equals all 8 playing 80% game time in the forward line. Proper forwards playing forward.
It can work. Also if say Harry chops out in the ruck for say 15% of the game that gives us 15% of game time to try another player down there, maybe Cripps forward for example. Same goes if we want to push MM back. Plenty of ways to make it work. I actually love it because we will have specialist players in every position.
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We finished 5 games out of finals let alone being serious contenders, coupled with our young talent still being quite green would indicate that we're not.
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