Analysis 2019 List Management Discussion

[LanceRomance]

If he's missed 20 months of football, does that mean everyone else has missed 5 months?

Yes.

But many would have had the benefit of continuous training blocks and development

 

[Jimmae]

Not many players are absolute locks. We now have options and players will need to earn their spots. Finally

Ok, but why is he clearly in the 22?

He's not.

 

[Weiterbot23]

Walsh and Setters will line up Round 1 v Tiges. Bank it.

They'll both be in my Consensus 22 votes, that's for sure.

They are two shortest odds on sportsbet for rising star also.


I was hoping to get Setterfield in the 30s

 

[Blue__Balls]

Yes.

But many would have had the benefit of continuous training blocks and development

Still. If he's fit and firing now, and gets a full 4-month preseason in, plus a couple of JLT games, I don't see why he'd need to come back through the VFL. Barring setbacks, he should be in the frame, and selection should be based on the best available players for round one. If he needs a spell after a few games because he can't string them together, so be it.

 

[Soapy V]

Ok, but why is he clearly in the 22?

He's not.

He's not clearly best 22. Having said that my opinion is Newman will turn out to be a great get and play a lot of football for us

 

[Matty411]

They are two shortest odds on sportsbet for rising star also.


I was hoping to get Setterfield in the 30s

We're due a RS winner after being stiffed recently with Charlie and Cripps.

 

[Macca43]

We're due a RS winner after being stiffed recently with Charlie and Cripps.

I would love it to be Stocker!!

 

[Matty411]

I would love it to be Stocker!!

Wouldn't surprise for Stock to play 10+ games after seeing what LOB and Dow did in 2018. But can't see him being 'sexy' enough so if it came down to Setters, Walsh or a few others (Rankine, JL) - I'd say he'll be pushed back in the voting.

 

[slashin_velvet]

So why take him with the 3rd pick and not the second if the draft order is so important?

They didn't? He went to Gold Coast.

 

[LanceRomance]

Still. If he's fit and firing now, and gets a full 4-month preseason in, plus a couple of JLT games, I don't see why he'd need to come back through the VFL. Barring setbacks, he should be in the frame, and selection should be based on the best available players for round one. If he needs a spell after a few games because he can't string them together, so be it.

Yes, but after missing so much football (and having only played 12 games) he is less of a chance of being best available

 

[jj1978]

We're due a RS winner after being stiffed recently with Charlie and Cripps.

And even Camporeale's year!

 

[jj1978]

And the future ones:
1. Setterfield will be better than shiel
2. Stocker will be better than Walsh
3. Polson will be en elite small forward
4. We have so much depth
5. Murphy will be lucky to get an AFL game this year

etc etc etc. Im sure in 5 years you will look back at a lot of comments on players and laugh as well

If the kids come on I wouldn't be surprised if Murphy gets edged out sometime next season.

 

[Matty411]

If the kids come on I wouldn't be surprised if Murphy gets edged out sometime next season.

You'd think/hope so, but we thought the same thing about Daisy and he's well established in our 22 - even if many still don't rate him. He continues to surprise us all.

 

[Macca43]

If the kids come on I wouldn't be surprised if Murphy gets edged out sometime next season.

It is more likely Murphy will be an All Australian than edged out of the team in 2019.

 

[Blue Pulse]

They didn't? He went to Gold Coast.

GWS/GCS they'll merge in a couple of years

 

[Weiterbot23]

Ahead of whom?

Daisy

 

[Mr_Plow]

It is more likely Murphy will be an All Australian than edged out of the team in 2019.

Not sure why people are considering dropping our best outside midfielder. Makes no sense.
Still one of our best runners and still has his trademark evasion.

 

[Beast__Mode]

Murphy is completely fine and will be outstanding as long as he is not asked to perform roles his body can no longer handle. With the depth now in place that should be the case and we’ll see the best of what he still has to offer. I’m really looking forward to seeing what he adds to the team next year.

And while I’m of the belief that the whole ‘captaincy is a burden’ is overblown, in his specific case I’m sure he’d be Glad in some ways to take a step back in a formal sense and just get himself right to contribute each week.

 

[Old navy]

Respectfully disagree with the not a natural footballer comment,imo he’s the opposite. When he gets an injury free run at it he’ll improve. Cuningham is not front of mind for best 22 with most supporters but when it clicks he’ll be a vital cog in the machine.

I did say that if it all clicks, he will be a handy player, not being a natural footballer isn’t a slight on him, one could argue that Fyfe is more athlete then footballer, he’s still a gun.

 

[Hands On]

He's more a knife IMO: still a weapon, but you don't take a knife to a gun fight.

Classic

 

[Matty411]

Personally, I really think Murph will flourish without the Captaincy pressure. If he can get himself cherry ripe for 2019, he could get back to his AA best and be in our top 3 players.

 

[Macca43]

Murphy is completely fine and will be outstanding as long as he is not asked to perform roles his body can no longer handle. With the depth now in place that should be the case and we’ll see the best of what he still has to offer. I’m really looking forward to seeing what he adds to the team next year.

And while I’m of the belief that the whole ‘captaincy is a burden’ is overblown, in his specific case I’m sure he’d be Glad in some ways to take a step back in a formal sense and just get himself right to contribute each week.

I think the advantage of not having the captaincy is less meetings, less press conferences more time to focus on your own game and more time to enjoy his young family. I think it will result in a happier more relaxed player and that has to be a good thing.

"As long as he is not asked to perform roles his body can no longer handle." With Cripps, E Curnow, Kennedy & Setterfield on the inside with the like of Dow and Stocker chipping in Murphy will have to do a lot less bash and crash and just focus on running his opponent into the ground.

 

[Old navy]

A bit of Ryan Houlihan.

Nah Houlihan footskills were absolutely elite, one of the best kicks to a leading forward I’ve ever seen.
Cunningham is more like Paddy Dow lite, although Dow’s ability to read the play and hunt the footy is top shelf and he also knows when and how to use the Jets.

 

[Weiterbot23]

Personally, I really think Murph will flourish without the Captaincy pressure. If he can get himself cherry ripe for 2019, he could get back to his AA best and be in our top 3 players.

He is 32 and injury prone, I think this is unlikely

I Hope he can be effective as a small forward or wing

by 2020 he should be the 8th or 9th in line for the a spot in the square, this is great for the club

 

[bmaurizio]

Marc Murphy begins to have some on field support at last, he's one of our better footballer and some of the criticism of his game day performances are ridiculous.
No way will Murphy be edged out to the Northern team for 2019 or 2020.