Mega Thread 2019 List Management, Free Agency & Trade thread #2

[maccamk]

If you want Menadue you can get him in the rookie draft. Mature aged players always end up where they intend to with the assurance of the club that they will get him. Don't see many clubs picking up other clubs delisted players who they intend to rookie list either.

Whether he is worth a spot on the rookie list over a teenage or other mature body option is the real debate to me.

Not to mention that if our nominated academy players aren't selected in the draft prior they go to the category B list like Carter did, we can only hold three of those and they take up a rookie spot.

We could have the intention of rookie listing Menadue but Butters is left on the table and we get him for free

If we want him can’t we just take him as a DFA in the coming weeks?


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[Taylor]

If we want him can’t we just take him as a DFA in the coming weeks?


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We could, but it would cost us pick #22 currently.

I think we have three list spots left, that means only picks #7, #10 and #22 are going to be available in the draft. If we sign a DFA then the last one falls off.

Is Menadue better than an early second round pick? No.

 

[Tbonefreo]

We could, but it would cost us pick #22 currently.

I think we have three list spots left, that means only picks #7, #10 and #22 are going to be available in the draft. If we sign a DFA then the last one falls off.

Is Menadue better than an early second round pick? No.

Why not?

 

[rgauci]

Why not?

It’s far more likely we delist a bunch of players; to create spots. Then re-rookie them.

I can’t imagine anyone grabbing Giro, North, Bewley, Banfield, Colyer ....

I’m not saying we should delist all 5. But no club is grabbing those guys as delisted free agents.

We don’t cut deep enough each year IMO.

 

[Taylor]

Why not?

I'd rather have the choice of the 50 remaining draftable players than a delisted free agent who hasn't been able to bulk up in years.

 

[Ogrebait]

... and plays like a church mouse.

 

[Ogrebait]

Is it only three senior list spots we have open? I thought it was 4.

Out:
Kersten
Bennell
Sandilands
Ballantyne
Jones
Langdon
B.Hill

In:
Giro (rookie upgrade)
Acres
Aish

 

[estibador]

... and plays like a church mouse.

There's a blast from the past. First post in 10 years?

 

[Ogrebait]

I've been busy.

 

[nurries]

Is it only three senior list spots we have open? I thought it was 4.

Out:
Kersten
Bennell
Sandilands
Ballantyne
Jones
Langdon
B.Hill

In:
Giro (rookie upgrade)
Acres
Aish

Was Carter also upgraded?

 

[Docker82]

Was Carter also upgraded?

No. Hughes was.

 

[ImperialPurple]

Can't understand the logic of upgrading Giro tbh. The kid's got some potential, but is never going to be a star. What would have been the problem leaving him to develop on the rookie list?

 

[manpurple]

What I don’t understand is why we promote anyone before the draft. Live trading makes it more likely that later picks count not less.

So walk into the draft with seven live picks see how it goes. You can promote players at any time as far as I can see so. What’s the rush.

Draft and trade first. Promote players with leftover picks between the draft and season start.


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[theGav56]

I'd only take Menadue if he's best 22. Longmuir's call.

 

[Dockernut]

I'd only take Menadue if he's best 22. Longmuir's call.

Really like the thought of his wheels on the broad expanses of Optus.

 

[Ogrebait]

OK, I've done some research: you can have 38-40 players on the Primary (Senior) List and an additional 6-4 Category A Rookies - 44 in total (plus up to 3 extra Category B rookies - total 47).

Source: https://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL Tenant/AFL/Files/AFL Rules effective 9 May 2019.pdf p.186


Fremantle currently have 35 Senior Players on their list (including Hughes and Carter - but not Acres and Aish) and 3 Rookies (including Giro).

Source: https://www.fremantlefc.com.au/footy-centre/team/senior-players

 

[Ogrebait]

Given that we've just added Acres and Aish, and that Giro is upgraded to the Senior List next year as part of his recent contract extension, we will need to delist (or 'move' to the rookie list) at least one player in order to pick up three players - the minimum required - in the November Draft.

 

[David C]

If the AFLW is anything to go by, we will only select local talent this year. All 5 picks, WA girls

The women's draft is different. The players must nominate the state and the clubs only pick from their state.

 

[Taylor]

By my count we have 35 current senior listed players with Giro and Hughes to be added to that with a stroke of the pen in silence on draft day.
That's three draft picks.

 

[David C]

It looks that way (as most selections are very much state based), however its not.
eg; 20. Brisbane Lions - Lucy Bellinger (Glenelg)

She must have nominated QLD as her state for Brisbane to pick her. Players can nominate any state.

 

[Lach72]

North probably gets cut and Giro back onto the rookie list.

They want to move up...nit Sure how we benefit

 

[Taylor]

Logue
Matera
Darcy
Cerra
Conca
Fyfe
Brayshaw
Walters
Hogan
Crowden
Wilson
Hughes (Upgraded)
Mundy
Dixon
Tucker
Blakely
Taberner
Hamling
McCarthy
North
Pearce
Sturt
Schultz
Valente
Meek
Hill
Colyer
Bewley
Cox
Lobb
Ryan
Switkowski
Banfield
Giro (Upgraded)
Duman
Acres
Aish

Is 37.

3 live picks at the draft.

#7, #10 and #22

 

[blue shark]

My 5 cents worth, Stephens, Henry, Sharp, Rivers, Taylor. Any of those 3 and we start the car. Would love to rookie
Ruscoe or the Subi kid who missed the champs.
Sokol also needs a

 

[Lach72]

Maybe they’re thinking we’ll just get the best 3 we can, cut hard into the list at the end of the year and take those high picks to the draft next year

 

[Ogrebait]

Logue
Matera
Darcy
Cerra
Conca
Fyfe
Brayshaw
Walters
Hogan
Crowden
Wilson
Hughes (Upgraded)
Mundy
Dixon
Tucker
Blakely
Taberner
Hamling
McCarthy
North
Pearce
Sturt
Schultz
Valente
Meek
Hill
Colyer
Bewley
Cox
Lobb
Ryan
Switkowski
Banfield
Giro (Upgraded)
Duman
Acres
Aish

Is 37.

3 live picks at the draft.

#7, #10 and #22

Plus Carter.

https://www.fremantlefc.com.au/news/2019-07-11/carter-upgraded