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I think club's tend to try and keep it to just picks these days - makes it harder for fans to compare players than straight swaps. Can't see them trading Cerra in any deal unless he wants out and we get a "win" out of it. I would have thought you guys are relatively well stocked to cover kelly with parfitt, miers, constable even dalhaus and you guys would be more after a KPF with hawkins getting closer to the end. I'd do a 7+ pick and tabs for kelly.
 

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Pardon the intrusion. If Kelly decides to go home and is now amenable to going to Freo, would a 2019 first rounder plus Cerra be a possibility do you think?
No. That’s overs for Kelly. A mature aged recruit for a top 5 youth pick? That’s fantasy. 24 year old for a 19 year old. Freo wouldn’t give that up. Played hard last year’s draft to get two top 5 picks. Won’t give that away.
If anything, first round picks is all we would offer, no players
 
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Don’t know anything about Jones. But Cerra would probably be of interest to us being a Victorian and a midfielder to replace what we would lose with Kelly leaving.
Oh man, you are missing on Scott Jones. The agility of Rioli with the football brain of Pendlebury, guaranteed superstar in the making. While he's not a back pocket specialist like our reserve reserve ruckman in Meek, he can play forward and dominate game with his sheer presence.

Cesoir was being very generous giving you that option, I would take it.
 

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Kersten back to Geelong? Let’s get serious one good first rounder should be plenty. If not then sorry moving along.

As at today our first pick is Pick 11. I’m quite confident that we will end up with a top 10 pick; prob in the 7-10 range. Pick 11 if we scrape into the 8. If Geelong want a sweetener then 2020 3rd rounder as well to push the value up a little. Not interested in us passing off 2019/2020 first rounders or 2019 1st and Cerra - please that is paying way overs. What happens with Ed Langdon will be interesting. I feel his value is a late 1st round pick. That could be used in some way to swap picks.


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I think club's tend to try and keep it to just picks these days - makes it harder for fans to compare players than straight swaps. Can't see them trading Cerra in any deal unless he wants out and we get a "win" out of it. I would have thought you guys are relatively well stocked to cover kelly with parfitt, miers, constable even dalhaus and you guys would be more after a KPF with hawkins getting closer to the end. I'd do a 7+ pick and tabs for kelly.
Just feel Kelly isn’t worth that. Just wish Hill was fit. He’s the better option. I wouldn’t give any of the forwards as it benefits them, and we suffer
 

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An out of contract Kelly for a #5 draft pick forty games into his career with two years to go on his contract and our first round pick. Hahaha

Let's say both clubs offer their new player four year deals. Cerra is a better player than Kelly for the last two years of that contract, then another four years on top of that, plus the first round draft pick.

If they were both in the draft this year Cerra is picked before Tim Kelly because he represents a hell of a lot more value for that draft pick. A hundred extra games of elite football is worth a fortune.

We've traded Weller and Neale for picks #2 and #6 when both are in contract, both would have gone for significantly less than that the following year. This is the following year for Tim Kelly.

Yes he is a good player, his clean hands around a stoppage are fantastic and will bring our outside runners more into the game but he is not a perfect player. I do not trust his field kicking. I listen to the commentary praise kicks from him that go directly to an opponent or pick out the two on one and kick it to the defenders advantage. If I'm coaching him I play him at the stoppages and forward but once the ball is moving he is tight on his man defending, I don't want him getting involved in the possession chain when we have guys like Langdon, Blakely, Taberner, Conca, Colyer etc.

I get it, they know he is gone and West Coast just won the flag, they missed out on getting Gaff back home and now WC will get another one of their players making them even better - well we better bleed the stone on that so talk him up as much as possible.
 

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Oh man, you are missing on Scott Jones. The agility of Rioli with the football brain of Pendlebury, guaranteed superstar in the making. While he's not a back pocket specialist like our reserve reserve ruckman in Meek, he can play forward and dominate game with his sheer presence.

Cesoir was being very generous giving you that option, I would take it.
Maybe we do a separate trade here for Wylie Buzza. If you can get his eyesight right he could be anything......but may not be either...
 

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how would Freo's 1st rounder & Brayshaw for Kelly & Narkle sound?
I'd be really happy with that.
 

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An out of contract Kelly for a #5 draft pick forty games into his career with two years to go on his contract and our first round pick. Hahaha

Let's say both clubs offer their new player four year deals. Cerra is a better player than Kelly for the last two years of that contract, then another four years on top of that, plus the first round draft pick.

If they were both in the draft this year Cerra is picked before Tim Kelly because he represents a hell of a lot more value for that draft pick. A hundred extra games of elite football is worth a fortune.

We've traded Weller and Neale for picks #2 and #6 when both are in contract, both would have gone for significantly less than that the following year. This is the following year for Tim Kelly.

Yes he is a good player, his clean hands around a stoppage are fantastic and will bring our outside runners more into the game but he is not a perfect player. I do not trust his field kicking. I listen to the commentary praise kicks from him that go directly to an opponent or pick out the two on one and kick it to the defenders advantage. If I'm coaching him I play him at the stoppages and forward but once the ball is moving he is tight on his man defending, I don't want him getting involved in the possession chain when we have guys like Langdon, Blakely, Taberner, Conca, Colyer etc.

I get it, they know he is gone and West Coast just won the flag, they missed out on getting Gaff back home and now WC will get another one of their players making them even better - well we better bleed the stone on that so talk him up as much as possible.
I agree with all this.

Unless we're in the 'window' (ie recently played finals) paying 2 first rounders for a bloke who will be 26 by the time he pulls on the jumper is poor list management. At that age, they need to be Free Agents (Conca) or dirt cheap (Colyer).

First Rounders are gold dust for clubs in a rebuild. Giving away 2 would be mortgaging our future.

We need to walk away from this one.
 

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I agree with all this.

Unless we're in the 'window' (ie recently played finals) paying 2 first rounders for a bloke who will be 26 by the time he pulls on the jumper is poor list management. At that age, they need to be Free Agents (Conca) or dirt cheap (Colyer).

First Rounders are gold dust for clubs in a rebuild. Giving away 2 would be mortgaging our future.

We need to walk away from this one.
Outside out the top 5, first rounders are extremely overrated.
 

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So, now we're trading our Pick 2 future Captain for a bloke who'll play 5 years for the club and who doesn't even want to be here?

We're definitely through the looking glass now.
There are certainly a numebr of ideas put forward that make me happy we don't let Jo(e) Public be list managers.
 
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