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Klyntonius

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Personally, Idk the status of "World Champion" doesn't count unless it's the big dogs in MotoGP.

How about when Nicky Hayden won with 2 wins? Four less than Rossi and Capirossi and Melndri won more.

Troy Bayliss competed in one race, and led more laps that season than Hayden!
There are no caveats to the status. It's about being in top at the end of the year in whatever class/discipline.


Forget Miller. He's pigeonholed himself to lovable entertainer.
He has elite speed and now he's learning to hone his race craft to run with the leaders. He finished the last race with the best pace of the Ducatis, was too respectful and cautious of the official boys.
 

imadodgyumpire

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We've had this conversation before. Moto2-3 champs are nice. But the heavyweight champ is still the heavyweight champ, beats the crap out of everyone else, and is the king of the jungle.

Miller crashes too much.
 

Klyntonius

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We've had this conversation before. Moto2-3 champs are nice. But the heavyweight champ is still the heavyweight champ, beats the crap out of everyone else, and is the king of the jungle.
Yes, we have been down this path before and came to the conclusion that whilst the blue riband class has the greatest champions, some of history's most legendary riders are from the lower classes (Nieto, Saarinen, etc). The idea that Moto3/2 are merely stepping stone classes is a relatively recent phenomena.


Miller crashes too much.
Correct. But he's now crashing fighting for podiums. He's more than a sideshow.
 

imadodgyumpire

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Yes, we have been down this path before and came to the conclusion that whilst the blue riband class has the greatest champions, some of history's most legendary riders are from the lower classes (Nieto, Saarinen, etc). The idea that Moto3/2 are merely stepping stone classes is a relatively recent phenomena.
Oh yeah. You'll have to keep reminding me of that.



Correct. But he's now crashing fighting for podiums. He's more than a sideshow.
Nup, not good enough. Falling off often is brainless and will cost him better rides later on. It's already cost him.
 

Dangerous_Woman_35

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I remember when Stoner was on a bike similar to Jack at first and he crashed a lot too, then when he got a factory ride with Ducati he won multiple championships, so there’s still hope for Jack yet, if he ends up on a Ducati, Honda or Yamaha one day!
 

hey shorty

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I remember when Stoner was on a bike similar to Jack at first and he crashed a lot too, then when he got a factory ride with Ducati he won multiple championships, so there’s still hope for Jack yet, if he ends up on a Ducati, Honda or Yamaha one day!
Stoner was in contention for a title by the time he'd spent as long in Moto GP as Jack has
 
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