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Resource 2019 Nominal Draft Order [based on 2018 ladder] - Now verified following live trades

Discussion in 'Drafts, Trading & Free Agency' started by Lore, Oct 8, 2018.

  1. Lore

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    Now includes live trades from Day 1 of the 2018 draft as follows;

    http://www.afl.com.au/draft/draft-tracker

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  2. Rory Walkerfield

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  4. Maggsy

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    I know it's a year away, but seeing the Crows with pick 1 for 2019 gets me excited.
     
  5. robbieando

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    Lore

    You have West Coast's future 3rd Round pick the Swans traded for last night sitting with the Bulldogs and not the Swans
     
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    I think pick 48 should still be Swans 2019 third round?

    As well as Robbie points out that the Dogs have been given your 2019 third round which should be with us too?

    I think that’s right.
     
  7. Patron

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    This looks lovely, but I don't know how WCE have 3 2nd round picks now, and i'm not sure we should have a 3rd round after giving that to the Sydney.

    I believe we should have:

    WCE 1st
    Sydney 2nd
    WCE 2nd
    No Third and
    Saints 4th.

    Cheers.
     
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  8. Lore

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    You are correct. I’m gonna blame Chief, he was updating the OP of the live thread last night and gave the credit of the swans live trades to the dogs. Being tired, I updated the spreadsheet twice, once on his information and then again with info from the AFL website, without undoing the first mess properly. I’ll sort it out in a bit, but it’s definitely incorrect as you say.
     
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  9. Patron

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    Yeah I saw that Dogs apparent trade also. Was confused at first too!
     
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  10. Lore

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    Alright, I think this is more accurate than the one I tried to do last night, based on the following;

    http://www.afl.com.au/draft/draft-tracker

    The above does not specify which club each pick is attached to, so it's difficult to know whether a pick is on-traded from a third club or whether they've traded their own pick. For that reason the below should have the right number of picks in the right rounds, but may still be slightly inaccurate. If the draft tracker is missing any of the live trades then I also haven't included them, as I don't have the information.

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  11. Lore

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    Draft tracker was updated again with a couple more live trades from the back end of the draft;

    http://www.afl.com.au/draft/draft-tracker

    The round 4 pick that Carlton received from the Saints could have originally been Carlton's, GWS' or West Coast's, as St Kilda had three. Without any further information I've taken a guess that it's GWS's pick that they traded, based on the other values in the trade that seems kinda fair. Will need to straighten it out when more information is available though.

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  12. Trueblue4Life

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    Hi Lore, I think Adelaide's 5th round pick (73) was traded back to Carlton, otherwise great work mate.
     
  13. Lore

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    Adelaide had two fifth round picks, one was traded to Carlton. Is there some confirmation that you've seen that shows that the pick that was traded was Carlton's? There's a couple of things like this that aren't made clear on the AFL website draft tracker, but what I've got should at least have the right number of picks in the right rounds.
     
  14. The Inbetweener

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    Hi Lore great work. The 3rd rounder the Dogs got from North yesterday is tied to St Kilda, not North’s own pick. Was reported on the North website
     
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  15. Lore

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    Thank you! Fixed. :)
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    I've broken down what I have in the spreadsheet below so that it's easier to see which picks your club has. If you know that something here is wrong please let me know, preferably with some sort of official source or reasoning so I can verify it.

    (Updating this as changes made from the info in the following posts)
    Round 1;
    Adelaide has Carlton's pick
    Brisbane Lions has Collingwood's pick
    Carlton has Adelaide's pick
    Gold Coast has Brisbane Lions' pick
    GWS has Essendon's pick

    Round 2;
    Adelaide has Carlton's pick
    Brisbane has Gold Coast's pick
    Essendon has GWS's pick
    Sydney has St Kilda's pick
    West Coast has Sydney's pick

    Round 3;
    Carlton has Adelaide's pick
    Brisbane has Fremantle's pick
    Gold Coast has Richmond's pick
    Hawthorn has Port Adelaide's pick
    Richmond has Gold Coast's pick
    Sydney has West Coast's pick
    Western Bulldogs have Hawthorn's pick
    Western Bulldogs has St Kilda's pick

    Round 4;
    Carlton has GWS's pick
    Collingwood has Hawthorn's pick
    Essendon has Fremantle's pick
    North Melbourne has Brisbane's pick
    Port Adelaide has Adelaide's pick
    Port Adelaide has Western Bulldogs' pick
    Port Adelaide has North Melbourne's pick
    Richmond has Geelong's pick
    St Kilda has Gold Coast's pick
    St Kilda has West Coast's pick
    Sydney has Carlton's pick
    West Coast has St Kilda's pick

    Round 5;
    Carlton has Adelaide's pick
    Gold Coast has West Coast's pick
    GWS has Carlton's pick
    Hawthorn has Collingwood's pick
     
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  16. Stamos

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    Carlton received a round 5 pick from Adelaide. It is unclear whether this was our original round 5 pick, or theirs (I think they traded out 2 5th rounders yesterday ?). But we have a 5th which isn’t showing on that board.
     
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    Great thread. Excellent resource.

    I think Collingwood has pick 68 (Hawthorns actual 4th rounder) in the pick trade from Hawthorn not pick 60.

    Port got pick 60 (Bulldogs 4th rounder from Duryea Deal) in the Wingard/Burton deal, not pick 68.

    Post #22 has it correct but it appears to have flipped picks 60 & 68 between Hawthorn and Port at post #26.

    Happy to keep pick 60 though.:)
     
  18. Lore

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    That's my bad, I missed that bit in the live trades. I've updated it with Carlton's own pick going back to them - not sure if that's correct but at least you have a pick in that round.
     
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  19. Lore

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    Ah! Okay. How's this;

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    Also I've added an extra column to the draft order page with the pick locations after the 2018 trade period and also after the 2018 draft live trading, instead of that being combined in one column. A little easier to follow I hope.
     
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    Thanks for this amazing resource. I have one question:

    In the 2nd last trade of the 2nd day of the draft

    At the time St Kilda held 3 fourth-round picks: Gold Coast's, GWS's and West Coast's. I have been unable to find any information on which of the 3 picks was sent to Carlton. It looks like you've noted it down as the GWS pick. Where did you get this information from?
     
  21. Lore

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    That's one I don't have any idea about, I've just guessed for now (as I noted above) :) There's a few trades like this where it is really quite ambiguous, and we don't know who has whose pick. For the minute I've just guessed and put one in, so that you at least know which rounds each club has a pick in. If you do find information let me know, it's a bit of a work in progress finding out what actual picks were swapped.

     
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  22. dlanod

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    According to the BL list manager, teams couldn't trade a pick back to the club who traded it to them. If Carlton traded the fifth round pick directly to Adelaide in the first place (I can't remember), Adelaide couldn't trade Carlton's pick back to them.
     
  23. Lore

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    Was this specifically in relation to live trades during the draft? And does it affect being traded back to the club who originally originally had it, before the beginning of future pick trades in 2017? Or just being traded back to the club that had it at the start of the draft?

    I'm sure picks have been traded back before, generally speaking. I think there was one pick in particular last year that got traded to around 12 different clubs including back to the original club and out again.
     
  24. dlanod

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    It applies to live trades but to all picks, even those traded before the draft.

    There wasn't mention whether it applied to non-live trades or not.
    Just that you couldn't trade a pick back to the team you got it from. You could trade it back to the original team if that team was different to the team you got it from.
     
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  25. grimlock

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    Thanks, should have read the previous posts more closely. I've been tracking them as well, and this is the only trade I couldn't get any official confirmation or where there was only one pick in that round that the club had at the time.

    Which other ones were you not certain about?
     
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