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Should WA Footy be concerned that this season has seen 5 of the top 11 lowest WAFL crowds since 1987?

http://www.waflfootyfacts.net/team/all/attendances.php#6

I think the WAFL definitely is still relevant and supported a couple of those low attendances were due to horrible weather this year mid season.
The clubs just need a bit more financial support and for Subiaco to drop right back to the field to create more interest the womens competition will eventually be a big winner a generate more supporters from a different demographic.
 

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Article in The Weakened Oz on the problems of soccer in Aus, particularly the youth coming through.

Of the top 50 players in the A-League 2018/9 only 6 are 23 or under.
Only 3 of that 6 are qualified for Australia.
Of the regular starters in the A-League 58 were qualified for Australia & 40% of those were aged 30 or more.
Of the 217 Australians playing overseas 52% are under 23.

Very interesting comments about a Reserves comp or B-League here:

Are FFA up to the job?
 

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Article in The Weakened Oz on the problems of soccer in Aus, particularly the youth coming through.

Of the top 50 players in the A-League 2018/9 only 6 are 23 or under.
Only 3 of that 6 are qualified for Australia.
Of the regular starters in the A-League 58 were qualified for Australia & 40% of those were aged 30 or more.
Of the 217 Australians playing overseas 52% are under 23.

Very interesting comments about a Reserves comp or B-League here:

Are FFA up to the job?
Thats why the club owners have taken over the running of the A League (like EPL and other big Euro leagues) from the FFA and Gallop resigned because they didn't want him to run the League and the FFA would cut his pay as he doesn't have to do anywhere as much work running the custodial body.
 

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Thats why the club owners have taken over the running of the A League (like EPL and other big Euro leagues) from the FFA and Gallop resigned because they didn't want him to run the League and the FFA would cut his pay as he doesn't have to do anywhere as much work running the custodial body.
Haha "club owners". You mean franchise owners. Franchisees who willfully purchased franchise licences with clear conditions who then used one franchisees' political pull in a corrupt regime to basically hijack the competition

Given the franchisees were in full control of their rosters (salary cap aside) I can't see why said franchisees will suddenly start playing more young players because they now own more than their franchise licence intially granted them
 

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Haha "club owners". You mean franchise owners. Franchisees who willfully purchased franchise licences with clear conditions who then used one franchisees' political pull in a corrupt regime to basically hijack the competition

Given the franchisees were in full control of their rosters (salary cap aside) I can't see why said franchisees will suddenly start playing more young players because they now own more than their franchise licence intially granted them
Who develops kids in Europe? The Football Associations or the clubs?

The club owners have no incentive to develop players the way the league was/is run. The incentive will come when they have control of youth programs and down the track they can sell players.

Look at the NSL clubs. They had control of youth development from u/10 or u/12 levels. Kids played thru juniors together. That's where the golden generation of Socceroos came from. Gallop and his mob were never going to do that sort of stuff.

Will it happen over night? No way. But now the owners - who have borne nearly all the risks of the A League - can plan their futures. Will all of them plough lots of money in to development? Probably not. But the smart ones will play the long game and have more control than in the past.
 

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Haha "club owners". You mean franchise owners. Franchisees who willfully purchased franchise licences with clear conditions who then used one franchisees' political pull in a corrupt regime to basically hijack the competition

Given the franchisees were in full control of their rosters (salary cap aside) I can't see why said franchisees will suddenly start playing more young players because they now own more than their franchise licence intially granted them
Well now instead of getting 3 cents in the dollar on any merchandising or ticket sales they get almost all of it (despite obvious costs).
They also now own their clubs brand so will now be able to market it and also get loans.
 

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Well now instead of getting 3 cents in the dollar on any merchandising or ticket sales they get almost all of it (despite obvious costs).
They also now own their clubs brand so will now be able to market it and also get loans.
sh*t I knew they didn't get a lot, but I didn't realise it was that little.
 

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s**t I knew they didn't get a lot, but I didn't realise it was that little.
Someone from the Wanderers brought it up. They could be exaggerating but it wouldn't surprise me.

The main part is the owners now own all intellectual property around their own clubs where they didn't before.

It may start slowly but things will be different.
 
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Someone from the Wanderers brought it up. They could be exaggerating but it wouldn't surprise me.

The main part is the owners now own all intellectual property aroind their own clubs where they didn't before.

It may start slowly but things will be different.
It was Mark Bosnich that brought it up in one of the Fox round table shows.
 

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I think it is a bit unfair to compare the two as the Bronco's play out of a stadium that holds 52,500 as compared to the Gabba that holds around 40,000 so a sellout by the Bronco's will always be higher figure than the Lions and lift the average up.
 

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I think it is a bit unfair to compare the two as the Bronco's play out of a stadium that holds 52,500 as compared to the Gabba that holds around 40,000 so a sellout by the Bronco's will always be higher figure than the Lions and lift the average up.
Just how often do you think the Lions have declared a sellout since 2005?
 

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I think it is a bit unfair to compare the two as the Bronco's play out of a stadium that holds 52,500 as compared to the Gabba that holds around 40,000 so a sellout by the Bronco's will always be higher figure than the Lions and lift the average up.
Thats how comparisons are done in the AFL? Not crowd numbers raw, % of stadium capacity ....
 

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Thats how comparisons are done in the AFL? Not crowd numbers raw, % of stadium capacity ....
Yanks like to look at stadium capacity and like to get over 100% for some.

This is how ESPN record it so you can sort by totals, averages and capacity for all seasons this century.




 

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Yanks like to look at stadium capacity and like to get over 100% for some.

This is how ESPN record it so you can sort by totals, averages and capacity for all seasons this century.
Hey, trust the Yanks. Home games and road, theres a problem for AFL footy,e.g Collingwood v Melbourne is different to Melbourne v Collingwood.
 

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Ok, so that pippen troll can save us his calculations of giants games crowds from now on. Apparently there are 18k at the NRL tonight despite there being next to noone in the upper stand where 2)3rds of the seats are!
 

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In another big weekend of sport, the Ashes continued to dominate impacting the Thursday, Friday and Saturday night ratings for the traditional big guns of the winter sporting period.

There is no coincidence that the highest rating FTA and Fox games of the football codes were on Sunday afternoon.

The highest rating sporting event of the weekend was the day three first session of the Ashes test with 841,000 viewers nationally. The cricket out rated the AFL and NRL on Thursday and Friday night, and only narrowly lost to the AFL on Saturday night.

The highest rating game on Foxtel over the weekend was the Richmond v West Coast AFL game on Sunday afternoon which rated 274,000 on Fox Footy.



NRL

The addition of Saturday night football screening on free-to-air continues to pay dividends for the NRL, boosting weekend audiences to a total 3.459 million viewers – a big win over the AFL – and taking the season total to 77.37 million at an average match broadcast of 460,000.

Including Representative round, the Origin series and preseason broadcasts, 88.7 million viewers have switched onto professional rugby league in 2019.

Prior to the round starting the SMH reported, NRL ratings were down 13% overall, including down 25% in New Zealand.

The highest rating NRL match for the round was Sunday afternoons Sharks v Dragons clash which attracted 674,000 viewers across Fox League and the Nine network.

The highest rating NRL match on the Nine network was Friday nights Broncos v Panthers game which rated 536,000 across the country. On Fox League, the highest rating game was Saturdays Storm v Raiders match which rated 267,000.

Nine reported that 4.2 million minutes of live matches were streamed on 9NOW, with average Viewers per minute up 22% on last year. Oztam streaming rankings featured 2 NRL matches from this round with the Storm v Raiders reaching 20,000 VPM.

The Canterbury Cup rated 6,000 on GEM on Saturday in Sydney, while the Intrust Cup rated 15,000 in Brisbane.



AFL

The AFL had a poor round 22, recording its second-lowest round total for 2019 with 3.026 million viewers switching on over the weekend.

85.59 million viewers have tuned into the AFL this home and away season with the average broadcast reaching 453,000 viewers. When including AFLW, AFLX and the JLT Series, 91.8 million viewers have switched on to professional Australian football in 2019.

Seven last week announced in its annual report that at the close of the financial year that its AFL ratings were up 10% at the end of the fiscal year compared to the same time last year. The Age reported on Friday that AFL ratings are up 7% on the same time as last year.

The highest rating AFL game of the round was Friday nights Demons v Swans game which attracted 633,000 viewers. It was also the highest drawing AFL game on the Seven Network with 496,000 viewers.

The highest rating game on Foxtel was Sunday afternoons Richmond v West Coast clash with 274,000 people tuning in.

On Saturday the SANFL rated 13,000 in Adelaide, while the WAFL had 24,000 viewers in Perth. On Sunday, the VFL had 30,000 viewers in Melbourne.



The Ashes

The Ashes was shown on Nine and GEM depending on where you lived, but nationally it dominated the sports landscape.

794,000 (metro) tuned in for the first session on Thursday – despite rain delays. Friday night recorded 841,000 viewers nationwide. Saturday night also pulled in 548,000 for the first session (metro only). Sunday night reeled in 647,000 viewers nationally.



The Bledisloe

The Bledisloe Cup rated 204,000 on Foxtel on Saturday, while Ten pulled in 452,000 nationally.

On Saturday afternoon the Shute Shield rated 20,000 on 7TWO in Sydney.



Super Netball

Saturdays Netball rated 83,000 in the five cities, while Sunday's game rated 89,000.



Data Notes

Data source is Oztam/RegTAM Preliminary Overnight ratings. Does not include Telstra TV, Kayo or mobile apps.
 

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