2019 Non-Crows AFL Chat #3 - the off-season

ShadeyP

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The only issue is they have about 4 later picks they want to use (66, 67, 68, 71), but won't be able to unless they have the space on their list. This would mean they have to have 33 (max) on their list when it comes to the draft so they can use 7 picks at the draft.

They removed Broadbent, Johnson, Frampton, Howard, Ryder and Gray, and added Buzza, so if they started with 38, now have 33, so are in a good spot unless they add someone else to the list.

I like their strategy - 3 kids + Mead then go into the season with 38 unless they like a DFA
They will likely trade 2-3 of those for something next year IMO ... they should never have paid for Motlop and need massive seasons from Watts and Rockliff otherwise all three of those moves are very costly . They are not letting it get stale though and for that i think they will open up a big window of contending from 2021-22 onwards with players coming off the books in Boak , Gray , Dixon , and likely those other 3 mentioned not long after . They will flip some more mature players again at the end of 2020 if they miss finals continuing the super aggressive rebuild .
 

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Thetrader15

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They will likely trade 2-3 of those for something next year IMO ... they should never have paid for Motlop and need massive seasons from Watts and Rockliff otherwise all three of those moves are very costly . They are not letting it get stale though and for that i think they will open up a big window of contending from 2021-22 onwards with players coming off the books in Boak , Gray , Dixon , and likely those other 3 mentioned not long after . They will flip some more mature players again at the end of 2020 if they miss finals continuing the super aggressive rebuild .
Other than salary cap, they really didn't pay much for Wots, Slops and Rocks. That said, I'd argue these three cost them Polec who was better than any of them, especially Slops who has been terrible (we dodged a bullet there). However, it was probably then that they said 'we aren't going to win a flag with this lot, let's make somes changes'. Credit to them, they are at least doing that.

Once Dixon is gone they'll be better too. I'd have shipped him off before Howard personally, but then you need to have takers (see Hartigan v Keath)
 

ShadeyP

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Other than salary cap, they really didn't pay much for Wots, Slops and Rocks. That said, I'd argue these three cost them Polec who was better than any of them, especially Slops who has been terrible (we dodged a bullet there). However, it was probably then that they said 'we aren't going to win a flag with this lot, let's make somes changes'. Credit to them, they are at least doing that.

Once Dixon is gone they'll be better too. I'd have shipped him off before Howard personally, but then you need to have takers (see Hartigan v Keath)
Agreed and nicely worded ... on the same page bud .
 

arrowman

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They will likely trade 2-3 of those for something next year IMO ... they should never have paid for Motlop and need massive seasons from Watts and Rockliff otherwise all three of those moves are very costly . They are not letting it get stale though and for that i think they will open up a big window of contending from 2021-22 onwards with players coming off the books in Boak , Gray , Dixon , and likely those other 3 mentioned not long after . They will flip some more mature players again at the end of 2020 if they miss finals continuing the super aggressive rebuild .
I think everything they've done in the last couple of years, and this year, clearly says "aggressive rebuild", and rightly so, but the club won't say that out loud.

Top off their last few trade/draft periods with a new coach :) and they'll be (should be) back on track.

(And FWIW and I know Port aren't supposed to be our benchmark, but I believe we're not behind them, on balance. We've done better on the coaching front, but our yoof is largely untried, but... on balance, we're in a similar position.)
 

ShadeyP

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I think everything they've done in the last couple of years, and this year, clearly says "aggressive rebuild", and rightly so, but the club won't say that out loud.

Top off their last few trade/draft periods with a new coach :) and they'll be (should be) back on track.

(And FWIW and I know Port aren't supposed to be our benchmark, but I believe we're not behind them, on balance. We've done better on the coaching front, but our yoof is largely untried, but... on balance, we're in a similar position.)
Agreed , they are hedging their bets on the surface but in full rebuild mode behind closed doors which is a smart play IMO .
Crows are 12-24 months behind on rebuild path ... but ...no reason why that can not be caught up over the next year or 2 .
Both clubs need to find out exactly who they are over that period or the lean times will continue for SA footy .
Schoey is the man for Port from 2021 onwards .
 

SaltPeter

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I think everything they've done in the last couple of years, and this year, clearly says "aggressive rebuild", and rightly so, but the club won't say that out loud.

Top off their last few trade/draft periods with a new coach :) and they'll be (should be) back on track.

(And FWIW and I know Port aren't supposed to be our benchmark, but I believe we're not behind them, on balance. We've done better on the coaching front, but our yoof is largely untried, but... on balance, we're in a similar position.)
I think our list has far better balance now.

They drafted well last year, but we are yet to see who they draft this year and how they develop. They'd expect a few decent F/S next year. However they are on the cusp of losing a lot of their old reliable talent.
 

Dudersaurus

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WTH with North and Hawthorn pick swap?

North get pick 30 and give away picks 50, 73 and a future 2nd, most likely <30.

And help Hawthorn out of a trading bind.

Well done Hawthorn.

North need the Viagra eye drops so they can take a long hard look at themselves.
 
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Pea Nut

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WTH with North and Hawthorn pick swap?

North get pick 30 and give away picks 50, 73 and a future 2nd, most likely
And help Hawthorn out of a trading bind.

Well done Hawthorn.

North need the Viagra eye drops so they can take a long hard look at themselves.
So they can see how hard they f’ed themselves.
 

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