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FlowersByIrene said:
Docherty, Witherden, Whitfield, Laird Lloyd will all be there. Start probably 3 or 4 out of those 5 - Docherty will be discounted and Witherden below what he should be due to his recent injury knocking his average down.

From there, you start three-two rookies and see how the Top 6 develops over time.

Far less confident about the Forward Line. You can never pick quality forwards. Devon Smith was a life saver this season. I went Charlie Curnow to start this year but I feel I may have gone a year early. Will be looking at home again closely next season.

I've also got one other forward line smokey i'll be thinking about but will depend if they retain dpp status or not.
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I can't see Harmes keeping FWD status ;)
 

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mezaire said:
I'll add a few more...
Hall if he moves to someone like Carlton could average 95.
Brad Crouch, if discounted enough
JK, will be cheap and if him and Darling are fit and their early draw looks OK.
Roberton will be worth a look if fit.
Liam Picken anyone?
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Depends on how Cheap, JK is normally good for a run of about 100 average at some popint in the seaosn so youre right, if he's got a good draw to start could be a chance of a quick cash grab.
 
List of discounted players on my current watchlist for 2019

Brad Crouch
Sam Docherty
Pearce Hanley
Kade Kolodjashnij
Will Setterfield
Zac Williams
Grant Birchall
Jack Viney
Mitchell Hibberd
Braydon Preuss
Hamish Hartlett
Sam Naismith
 
Isnt a discount from the highest of their previous 2 year avg. Ie Aaran Hall will getva 12% discount from his 90 odd avg in 2017 not his 71 avg in 2019.

Alot of thos will be the case unless a player missed the whole year ie Docherty.

Docherty
Z.Williams will be lock defenders
Whitfield will seem a safe top defender in a similar mould to Laird.
Howe underpriced

B.Crouch 30% discount
Dangerfield and Dusty underpriced mids
Z.Merrett
T.Adams
Zorko
L.Shuey - Does he have enough upside
Duncan
M.Crouch - This guy will be a lock for me i think
Beams his avg since round 5 impressive. Never tagged anymore and seems past his durability concerns

Heeney - seems a safe forward lock
Menegola - Didnt have the drop off i expected

Kreuzer
Ryder
S.Jacobs some value in the rucks but very risky
 
Keystone agony said:
Isnt a discount from the highest of their previous 2 year avg. Ie Aaran Hall will getva 12% discount from his 90 odd avg in 2017 not his 71 avg in 2019.
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Maybe, but it's not clear (and there probably isn't even a "rule") as to when that "highest of their previous 2 year avg" comes into play.
It was certainly used for Fyfe (and maybe Beams?) in the past, so whether a player such as Hall is considered good enough to have that applied will be interesting (but probably frustrating...)
 
rimb said:
Maybe, but it's not clear (and there probably isn't even a "rule") as to when that "highest of their previous 2 year avg" comes into play.
It was certainly used for Fyfe (and maybe Beams?) in the past, so whether a player such as Hall is considered good enough to have that applied will be interesting (but probably frustrating...)
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I thought it was used for all.

Ie Fiorini after his 1st year. Ethan Hughes another example.
 
FlowersByIrene said:
Fantasy are very fast and loose wiht their rules
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They seemed to outline the rules a fair bit at the start of this year. With how it works.

Guys who play 1-9 games get a discount off their best season avg from the past 2 years.

Played 0 games - 30% off
Played 1 game - 27% off
Played 5 games - 15% off
Played 9 games - 3% discount

Im pretty sure thats a concrete rule for the 2018 season and i dont see it changing for 2019 as it seems pretty good.

Unfortunatly for guys like Ethan Highes, Fiorini who are only 2-3 game rookies in the past theyve been severly overpriced. This will happen again for guys like Redman and Freeman for the 2019 season. They will likely be out priced out of the market.

Edit: Harley Bennell was priced at 249k from memory. He avg 46.5 in 2017 from 2 games. He got a 24% discount on that avg to be priced at an estimated avg of 35.3 ie 249k

For next year with no games he will get a 30% discount on that 46.5 pricing him at 32.5 or money terms (229k) for the 2018 salary cap.
 
If anyones keen to start doing their planning for a 2019 team id suggest you look at it in Player avg terms rather than their potential prices.

Last year we had 1791 points to buy our 30 man team squad. A basement bench will cost 193 pts which is what most people do (ie in 2018 8 x 170k players)

So for the field of 22 that means you have 1598 pts to buy your team.

The rule for pricing is concrete AFAIK. Tye discount applies to the greater avg of the 2018/19 season.

In 2019 if a player played;
Played 0 games - 30% off
Played 1 game - 27% off
2 Games - 24% Discount
3 Games - 21% Discount
4 Games - 18% discount
Played 5 games - 15% off
6 games - 12% discount
7 games - 9% discount
8 games - 6% discount
Played 9 games - 3% discount

Example: T.Greene played 7 games = 9% discount. That discount would be applied to his greater avg from the past 2 years of 91 not his current 75.

so 0.91 x 91.4 (2017 avg) = 83(Price)

For new rookies it doesnt really matter for this time of planning until we know the order.

Pick 1 = 38.4
Pick 2 = 38.1
Pick 3 = 37.8 (-0.3 per pick till 50)
 

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Keystone agony said:
If anyones keen to start doing their planning for a 2019 team id suggest you look at it in Player avg terms rather than their potential prices.

Last year we had 1791 points to buy our 30 man team squad. A basement bench will cost 193 pts which is what most people do (ie in 2018 8 x 170k players)

So for the field of 22 that means you have 1598 pts to buy your team.

The rule for pricing is concrete AFAIK. Tye discount applies to the greater avg of the 2018/19 season.

In 2019 if a player played;
Played 0 games - 30% off
Played 1 game - 27% off
2 Games - 24% Discount
3 Games - 21% Discount
4 Games - 18% discount
Played 5 games - 15% off
6 games - 12% discount
7 games - 9% discount
8 games - 6% discount
Played 9 games - 3% discount

Example: T.Greene played 7 games = 9% discount. That discount would be applied to his greater avg from the past 2 years of 91 not his current 75.

so 0.91 x 91.4 (2017 avg) = 83(Price)

For new rookies it doesnt really matter for this time of planning until we know the order.

Pick 1 = 38.4
Pick 2 = 38.1
Pick 3 = 37.8 (-0.3 per pick till 50)
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Solid analysis, cheers :thumbsu:
 
Keystone agony said:
If anyones keen to start doing their planning for a 2019 team id suggest you look at it in Player avg terms rather than their potential prices.

Last year we had 1791 points to buy our 30 man team squad. A basement bench will cost 193 pts which is what most people do (ie in 2018 8 x 170k players)

So for the field of 22 that means you have 1598 pts to buy your team.

The rule for pricing is concrete AFAIK. Tye discount applies to the greater avg of the 2018/19 season.

In 2019 if a player played;
Played 0 games - 30% off
Played 1 game - 27% off
2 Games - 24% Discount
3 Games - 21% Discount
4 Games - 18% discount
Played 5 games - 15% off
6 games - 12% discount
7 games - 9% discount
8 games - 6% discount
Played 9 games - 3% discount

Example: T.Greene played 7 games = 9% discount. That discount would be applied to his greater avg from the past 2 years of 91 not his current 75.

so 0.91 x 91.4 (2017 avg) = 83(Price)

For new rookies it doesnt really matter for this time of planning until we know the order.

Pick 1 = 38.4
Pick 2 = 38.1
Pick 3 = 37.8 (-0.3 per pick till 50)
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When did they bring this "last two seasons" rule in..

Is it only for discounts? What if a player had a shit year this year - like Pendlebury - would he be priced at this average of this season or his higher average from 2017?

It doesn't make much sense.
 
So for next year, excluding discounts for injuries etc:

DEFENDERS
Laird 107.8
Yeo 106.8 (won't be DEF)
Brayshaw 105.1 (won't be DEF)
Lloyd 101.6
Whitfield 100.1
Sicily 95.6
Simpson 95.4

MIDFIELDERS
Mitchell ave 129.2
Macrae 122.6
Gaff 110.7
Coniglio 110.4
Cripps 109.3
Oliver 109.1
Treloar 108.5
Kelly 108.4

RUCKS
Grundy 120
Gawn 111.3
Stef 101.3

FORWARDS
Devon 106.6 (won't be FWD)
Dangerfield 106.2 (may not be FWD)
Westhoff 101.9
Menegola 98.6
Dunkley 95.8 (won't be FWD)
McLean 94.5
 

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2019 DPP Top 6 positions in no certain order retained (my thoughts)

DEF: Laird, Doch, Lloyd, Witherden, Sicily, Whitfield
FWD: (Slim pickings, nearly everyone will lose it IMO) Greene, McLean, Westhoff, J. Cripps, Menegola (maybe), Heeney

My picks at this stage based on price, form etc.

DEF: Laird, Doch, Whitfield, Stewart, Rookie, Rookie
MID: Macrae, Cogs, Danger, Brayshaw (Melb), Steele, Hanneberry, Rookie, Rookie
RUC: Grundy, Ryder
FWD: Greene, J. Cripps, Heeney, Rookie, Rookie, Rookie (Really have no idea on the forwards at this point. Will go Menegola if available)
 
FlowersByIrene said:
When did they bring this "last two seasons" rule in..

Is it only for discounts? What if a player had a shit year this year - like Pendlebury - would he be priced at this average of this season or his higher average from 2017?

It doesn't make much sense.
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In place for 2018 and only for discounts. They also had something in place for 2017 but it was still a work in progress.

It doesnt matter its to mitigate those playing 9 games or less as a serious injury affected game or two with such small games can impact average alot.
 
Aussie_boy said:
I reckon Dangerfield will hold forward status.
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Yeh i dont think so.

I think there is enough forward power now without needing him there and you dont start getting 35+ disposals playing as mainly a forward.

Dev Smith, Westhoff, Menegola, Buddy, Greene, Mclean, Heeney offer enough in the forwards.
 
Keystone agony said:
In place for 2018 and only for discounts. They also had something in place for 2017 but it was still a work in progress.

It doesnt matter its to mitigate those playing 9 games or less as a serious injury affected game or two with such small games can impact average alot.
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But so what if their discounted price is higher than just their average for last season... like the Toby Greene example you posted. They'll do the "discount version" despite it being higher than what they averaged last year?

I wish they would just let the numbers fall as they lie.
 
Keystone agony said:
Yeh i dont think so.

I think there is enough forward power now without needing him there and you dont start getting 35+ disposals playing as mainly a forward.

Dev Smith, Westhoff, Menegola, Buddy, Greene, Mclean, Heeney offer enough in the forwards.
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Not sure how Smith and McLean stay as forwards and Danger doesn't.
 

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