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  1. yakka man

    yakka man Brownlow Medallist

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    No, I would say simply that Footy instinct is what you do when in a situation where the game plan has broken down or when they are better alternatives to following a strict method. Not every second of a game can be rehearsed or go your way. Sometimes individual moments of brilliance that aren't specifically trained for can make for great moments. For example, the Jack Higgins goal (whether or not it was legal), a moment in which teams would spend exactly zero time training for.
     

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  2. theGav56

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    not a reality TV show watcher, but might sway me.
     
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  3. ShredBot

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    Awesome Job Much appreciated
     
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  4. Simmofreo

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    When coulda wasn't carded :)

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  5. Simmofreo

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    Oh actually bushie, that's who u meant above not coulda. My bad. I really did enjoy watching him lose it the old fella

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  6. Beak_A

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    Isn’t instinct just an automated learned response to a particular stimulus that you don’t need to go through a cognitive process to enact though ?


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  7. Bicco

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    Like a forward defense in cricket. A batsman doesn't think about it, they just react on instinct and play the shot in the correct way.
     
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  8. arsesmart

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    Yeah, in the general use of it there aren't too many things described as "instincts" that aren't learned in some way shape or form.

    Certainly in the strict definition you're trying to have there, there isn't too much "instinctual" about transporting inflated pieces of stitched together leather up a field to kick it between two large sticks that've been stuck in the ground all the while playing keepies off from another group trying to do the same at the other end of the field.
     
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  9. CapitalA

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    I figured ballaz meant that if they don't have to think so much about complex structures and making the exact right decision for every situation it would make for less mistakes due to over thinking/over handling the ball. And if everyone knows where they need to be for the game plan to work then theoretically you don't have to waste as much time thinking the next best move you know where the players will generally be so you can quickly move the ball accurately.
     
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  10. Beak_A

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    I think It’s a bit like Douglas Adams once wrote - something like some people are good at solving the complex series of mathematical equations that describe grasping a projectile while in flight

    Others just catch a ball


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  11. AAACockburn

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    I can see it now.
    Location: North Sentinel island in the bay of Bangal.
    Ancient tribe that has had little to no contact with civilisation.
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    Plot: A dodgy Sherrin (Made in India) washes up on the shore.
    Drones flying out of sight filming the action from above.
    What will happen...
     
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  12. wayToGo_

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    Sounding familiar...

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  13. Galvo

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    You are right but that’s football club vernacular.

    Instead of the coach yelling “Let’s keep practicing this drill until we can make the right decision and react so quickly that the action appears to be on instinct”

    He yells

    “do it again until we can do it on instinct”
     
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    Nah, the whole tribe can all play with the footy at once.
    You would need a few test balls though to get past the spear and is it a red coconut test.
    But after they dissect a few the possibilities are endless.
     
  15. sherrif

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    Just a few other things I remembered later:
    Carter doesnt seem to fumble the ball at all and is already looking like he has added muscle.
    The stories from watchers who rarely miss a session of Harley Bennell joining in everything seem really promising.
    I got told Giro and Banfield are often the first out and the last to leave the track every session. Either or both could be most improved next season as they are certainly working hard enough.
    Conca looks at home and seemed really good in clearance drills. HIs kicking doesnt seem to be an issue at all from my limited viewing.
    Ethan Hughes looking much better in skill drills and unlike last preseason he hasnt missed a beat. He took a couple of great intercept marks in the session I saw.
    Meek finished around 6th or7th in the recent 2km and looks stronger as well.
    Jones actually surprised as well with a slow start and a strong finish to the 2km.
    Fyfe looks in great shape but isnt joining in everything yet.
    Cox played both back and forward in the session and is also looking good. His field kicking has definitely improved.
    As said by others Connor Blakely is only joining in with midfield group and not the defensive group.
    Tobe Watson looks a bit bigger and stronger in person. Kicking technique is excellent, but he didnt join in much.
    Crowden is just a ball of muscle. Didnt notice him too much in match sims, but he may not have been involved in everything.
     
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  16. FreoMonocle

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    As Hogan is jogging, fingers crossed that he can get an amount of work with the main group in the preseason so he can learn how to fit and the others know how to work with him. Also, it's one thing to be told "this is what you should be doing" and actually see it done right, I think both Cox and Taberner can learn a bit from him.
     
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    Thanks for the training reports. It’ll be interesting to see how Sturt goes with a full preseason under his belt, if anyone can keep an eye on him it’ll be much appreciated.
     
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  18. Sweetback

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    I reckon that’s bullshit. You train a thousand times to catch that ball so that in the moment your muscle memory is hardwired to know exactly how to respond.
     
  19. Tayl0r

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    If the scar removal surgery Stephen Hill has had is what I'm thinking it is then it's a very graphic scraping of the tissue back. Super violent but really effective
     
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    Effective in the sense that he'll be in full training soon?
     
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    The update the club released this afternoon said he'll be able to resume running in 6 to 8 weeks.
     
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    Effective in that I've known footballers to have quite degenerative knees from scar tissue building up and irritating and building up who have had a scraping procedure and have been running pain free ten years on, after nearly giving up playing completely.
     
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    instinct
    noun
    /ˈɪnstɪŋ(k)t/
    1. an innate, typically fixed pattern of behaviour in animals in response to certain stimuli.

    That's the definition you wanted us to look up. Sounds a lot like the automatic execution of a well drilled gameplan to me.
     
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  24. Fred Ziffel

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    Example has twice the value of instruction.
     
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  25. yakka man

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    Lol. The lengths that people on here will go to to defend Ross Lyon is ridiculous; arguing over the obvious. Reaction to repetitive and trained 'stimuli' is not instinct, it's a pre-planned method.

    I can google definitions too:

    innate
    /ɪˈneɪt,ˈɪneɪt/
    adjective
    1. inborn; natural.
    Are you trying to tell me that our players are born with the genetic knowledge of Ross Lyon's game plan????????

    Case closed.
     
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