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He'll be fine, got a WWE career in the making nowHibberd lands on the wrong foot and does an ACL. Troy Chaplin becomes even more popular on MFC Bigfooty
Can we unlock the Hogan thread? I think we all miss the never ending circular debates
Should help fill the void until football
Personally I'm sick of the bloke. He played 71 games for us. 71!
He's gonna play 150 odd for Freo, hopefully the obsession with him dies out
Matthew Bate 102 games
Jordie McKenzie 79 games
Nathan Carroll 71 Games
Matt Jones 61 games
Paul Johnson 68 games
Cale Morton 73 games
Rohan Bail 71 games
That's the company he sits in.
**** the campaigner
There's something that seperates him from all those blokes though.Personally I'm sick of the bloke. He played 71 games for us. 71!
He's gonna play 150 odd for Freo, hopefully the obsession with him dies out
Matthew Bate 102 games
Jordie McKenzie 79 games
Nathan Carroll 71 Games
Matt Jones 61 games
Paul Johnson 68 games
Cale Morton 73 games
Rohan Bail 71 games
That's the company he sits in.
**** the campaigner
There's something that seperates him from all those blokes though.
Yes I think we share the same view of him, but nonetheless he did bring a great deal of passion to this board - there's no denying it.
It can't be just swimming and **** all the time TK
Personally I'm sick of the bloke. He played 71 games for us. 71!
He's gonna play 150 odd for Freo, hopefully the obsession with him dies out
Matthew Bate 102 games
Jordie McKenzie 79 games
Nathan Carroll 71 Games
Matt Jones 61 games
Paul Johnson 68 games
Cale Morton 73 games
Rohan Bail 71 games
That's the company he sits in.
**** the campaigner
Yeah, after rewatching the majority of his games from last season, what really stood out, and probably reaffirmed my frustrations when he was still a Melbourne player, that while he is a very good player, he's only a so so forward. It'll be really interesting to see how he goes at Freo, as I don't think too many of his 40-something goals last year came from any particular good forward craft of his own, rather than just being on the end of some good team work further up the ground, and I'm not sure how much of that he's going to get at Freo.Hogan is a very good player no denying it, but has flaws in his game (Mainly his aerial work) that I’m not sure he will ever fix.
Yeah, after rewatching the majority of his games from last season, what really stood out, and probably reaffirmed my frustrations when he was still a Melbourne player, that while he is a very good player, he's only a so so forward. It'll be really interesting to see how he goes at Freo, as I don't think too many of his 40-something goals last year came from any particular good forward craft of his own, rather than just being on the end of some good team work further up the ground, and I'm not sure how much of that he's going to get at Freo.
Also, it must be said, all these pictures popping up of him on various websites with an atrociously arrogant smirk on it, has really highlighted how much of a punchable face he has.
Yeah exactly, big tank, agile, good below his knees, very good field kick, and a good footy IQ ... it looks great coming from a guy playing as a KPF, but that work could just as easily be done by another midfielder without leaving you short a target inside 50.His agility and ground ball stuff is elite for a big man but he very rarely takes the ball at its highest point like Tmac and Weid do. He also has an obsession with wrestling when he isn’t that strong 1on1.
yeah agree. you saved me the trouble, I was about to write the same thing.Yeah exactly, big tank, agile, good below his knees, very good field kick, and a good footy IQ ... it looks great coming from a guy playing as a KPF, but that work could just as easily be done by another midfielder without leaving you short a target inside 50.
My biggest knock on him is that he was a MUCH better forward in his first season than he has been since. He used to lead at the ball carrier, run and jump at the footy and crash packs to bring the ball to ground, where he'd pop up and have a second and third effort to win the ball. Since then, his first instinct is to look for body contact to try and win a free kick, which if he doesn't he stops and complains rather than making another effort, and he always wants the ball over his head to beat his man under the flight, and run into an open goal. In other words, he wants easy goals, and I'm not sure if he's watched Freo play much the last decade or so, but goals have seldom come easy!
while he is a very good player, he's only a so so forward.
Yeah exactly, big tank, agile, good below his knees, very good field kick, and a good footy IQ ... it looks great coming from a guy playing as a KPF, but that work could just as easily be done by another midfielder without leaving you short a target inside 50.
My biggest knock on him is that he was a MUCH better forward in his first season than he has been since. He used to lead at the ball carrier, run and jump at the footy and crash packs to bring the ball to ground, where he'd pop up and have a second and third effort to win the ball. Since then, his first instinct is to look for body contact to try and win a free kick, which if he doesn't he stops and complains rather than making another effort, and he always wants the ball over his head to beat his man under the flight, and run into an open goal. In other words, he wants easy goals, and I'm not sure if he's watched Freo play much the last decade or so, but goals have seldom come easy!
funny enough Goodwin moves Melksham to Full Forward for a quarter or so every now and then, and you'd struggle to find the difference in how they play the role except that Melk keeps competing and generally looks more dangerous. that tells you all you need to know. a bloke 4 inches shorter and nearly 20kgs lighter can play the same way as Jesse the big key forward.I only know the man from his 2018 play, and this gets to the heart of it for me. It didn’t even seem like he was playing as a forward much of the time. Maybe it’s what Goodwin asked of him? Maybe I don’t understand the game enough?? But he took the majority of his marks between 50-60m from goal. And his disposals from that point weren’t special. I’d rather have Melksham taking those marks.
I think it's more about playing to his strengths ... in that being a key forward isn't, so give him licence to get up the ground.I only know the man from his 2018 play, and this gets to the heart of it for me. It didn’t even seem like he was playing as a forward much of the time. Maybe it’s what Goodwin asked of him? Maybe I don’t understand the game enough?? But he took the majority of his marks between 50-60m from goal. And his disposals from that point weren’t special. I’d rather have Melksham taking those marks.
Thankyou for doing this. People would have heard this enough from me but totally agree.
Who gives a stuff if he averages 20 disposals. He wasn't taking huge marks linking the play on the wing like Nick Riewoldt he was getting handballs being tackled in the midfield which any average mid could do.
I honestly believe if you reviewed his season 50% atleast of his goals were just from getting in behind on the end of a brilliant kick and not because he's a good forward. Tom Bugg goals if you will
I've been saying it for 3 years now and I'll always maintain that our forward 6 worked better without him. He was an inefficient forward.
He was a better AFL forward in his first AFL season
I disagree with you as usual, given Hogan was so important to us for a few years, but liked anyway for the needlessly hilarious "* the campaigner". 5 stars.Personally I'm sick of the bloke. He played 71 games for us. 71!
He's gonna play 150 odd for Freo, hopefully the obsession with him dies out
Matthew Bate 102 games
Jordie McKenzie 79 games
Nathan Carroll 71 Games
Matt Jones 61 games
Paul Johnson 68 games
Cale Morton 73 games
Rohan Bail 71 games
That's the company he sits in.
**** the campaigner