Prediction 2019 Rising Star winner discussion.

[Red_man2008]

Not really. They're about the same level.

You’re right. But I just wanted to be dramatic as they weren’t being included in comparison.

 

[Schulzenfest]

I was going to say that Lewis is very underrated around here.

As I think Zuhaar is.

Zurhaar has a bit of de Goey about him.

 

[the big lebowski]

Zurhaar has a bit of de Goey about him.

As a forward for sure. De goey can play midfield which Zuhaar can’t yet. Hopefully another couple of pre seasons.

Can’t believe he’s still on the rookie list.

 

[BigFrizz36]

Larkey, Lewis and Naughton are the best 3 young key forwards in the comp for mine. Two of them are bargain basement picks at the end of the 2016 draft.

I fully agree. Unless you count all of the others that are as good or better.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Where are all the Richmond supporters banging on that Stack is better than Walsh

 

[Bollox]

Congrats to Sam Walsh. Phenomenal work and streets ahead of the pack.

Special mention to Nick Blakey for missing just the one game. A few games to settle in, then just kept getting better. Took a bunch of big knocks and showed plenty.

 

[Substance]

Wasn't 2018 always considered a super draft, even 1.5 years out? IIRC clubs were keen to hold onto their future firsts during the 2017 trade period.

 

[KermitJagger]

I fully agree. Unless you count all of the others that are as good or better.

Only Carlton players of course!

 

[nahnah]

Top 3:
1. Walsh
2. Rozee
3. Smith


Miers, Zurhaar and a few others unlucky

 

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

Is it Greenes record?
Well done to the kid and an achievement to play all 22 games for the club in his 1st year

Bailey Smith has too played each week with way less of a preseason.

 

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

Lol. McKay, Curnow s**t all over all three of them.

Boy oh boy

 

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

You’re right. But I just wanted to be dramatic as they weren’t being included in comparison.

Did it really hurt you that much that they we not included huh

 

[BigFrizz36]

Only Carlton players of course!

Clearly McKay and curnow need to be in the discussion. However you could also add

Oscar Allen
Jaydyn Stephenson
Ben King
Darcy fogerty
Harrison himmelberg

To the discussion

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Is it Greenes record?
Well done to the kid and an achievement to play all 22 games for the club in his 1st year

I believe so.

Did Greene miss a game or two? I think I remember him averaging 27 or 28 which is more than Walsh.

If Walsh turns out like Greene we are extremely lucky. Hope he remains in the middle next year.

 

[HTPunter]

Clearly McKay and curnow need to be in the discussion. However you could also add

Oscar Allen
Jaydyn Stephenson
Ben King
Darcy fogerty
Harrison himmelberg

To the discussion

Wouldn't add Stephenson to a key forward discussion

 

[HTPunter]

McKay was actually a very reliable kick early on. Something is in his head ATM and it's gone to water. No way of knowing really how Larkey goes in future years once there is pressure to perform.

Would love to understand one day what goes on mentally with these players. Someone like Casboult is now one of our best kicks for goal.

McKay's best value may end up being as our CHF. Impossible matchup with his speed, athleticism and size (he's 204cm). Then we play guys like Mitch and Curnow deeper.

Larkey has a good technique though, doesn't rely on a swinging outside the line left boot. Which is why it's unsustainable.

 

[HTPunter]

The fact Tom Atkins is top 5 shows there is something wrong with their rankings

Goldy ahead of Bontempelli too, but don't see Dogs fans spruiking the importance of player ratings there...

 

[Ray Donovan]

Larkey's just not sexy. McKay has the extreme athleticism for a guy his size, Naughton has the big high-flying contested mark clunks. Larkey doesn't do anything particularly highlight worthy, he's just a bloody smart footballer who gets himself to the right spot and makes the most of his opportunities.

I think your underating his marking ability for a young guy the work he was doing in the VFL was really impressive marking wise.

I think that will continue to shine through

 

[BigFrizz36]

Wouldn't add Stephenson to a key forward discussion

I've only seen him play at full forward. Different sort of key forward but that's the role he plays.

 

[AFLOnline]

Walsh needs 10 touches this weekend to break the first year disposals record.

A truely unprecedented first season.

Who holds it?

I'm think Toby Greene, Michael Barlow or Rhys Palmer?

I'll go with Rhys Palmer.

 

[Elmer_Judd]

Who holds it?

I'm think Toby Greene, Michael Barlow or Rhys Palmer?

I'll go with Rhys Palmer.

Toby Greene, but the records only go back as far as 1999. Still a wonderful effort by the 2019 NAB Rising Star.

 

[flipper83]

Goldy ahead of Bontempelli too, but don't see Dogs fans spruiking the importance of player ratings there...

I don't think any dog fans have spruiked the importance of player ratings. I don't think any have even commented on them.

I just posted the ratings as an unbiased metric of the impact of first year players. Clearly it's flawed, as is purely looking at stats or any other system that tries to place a numerical value on a players value.

If you prefer I can just add another post trying to devalue players that I've barely seen from other teams or bringing in random ineligible players from my team to try to get acknoledgement that my team has the brightest future because we have the best young players.

That seems to be what most posts here are about.

 

[Dry Rot]

Walsh needs 10 touches this weekend to break the first year disposals record.

A truely unprecedented first season.

Does Walsh do much with all those possessions? What's he like at the tough stuff compared with Bailey Smith?

 

[james Dean]

Toby Greene, but the records only go back as far as 1999. Still a wonderful effort by the 2019 NAB Rising Star.

Possession stats were far lower back in the day, I think it’s a safe bet to say nobody has ever had this many in their first season

 

[Dr Awkward]

Been a great draft class, can't remember a year recently with as many good debut seasons