Analysis 2019 rule changes now official

[mezaire]

I actually like the kick in rule.
Think it will simply mean the players kick in can grab a ball and run off as soon as the umpire has signaled behind.
The player on the mark has to wait until the kicker crosses the goal square line before advancing , ie play on.

What I think smart teams will do is to make sure a ball is quickly available while the set shot is being taken and if a behind is scored, be off as soon as they can.

The confusion will be, does the kick in player have to wait for the man on the mark to get in position and for opposing players to clear the area? Or will it be like hockey where if you are close to the player playing on, you can't effect them for 5m??

What could happen.....WC vs Collingwood GF. DeGoey kicks a point, Hurn grabs a ball quickly and runs at Cox who is lumbering away from the goal square. Cox is in the way (unintentionally) so 50m to Hurn and he can then launch the ball inside 50!!!

 

[ptrg]

What could happen.....WC vs Collingwood GF. DeGoey kicks a point, Hurn grabs a ball quickly and runs at Cox who is lumbering away from the goal square. Cox is in the way (unintentionally) so 50m to Hurn and he can then launch the ball inside 50!!!

Yeah, that sounds good for footy...

 

[Coaster2012]

Well R.I.P. Australian Rules Football was a good sport while it lasted

****ing lol. Drama queen much? The rule changes aren't even that bad.

Some posters here need to get a grip.

 

[TheSunGod]

6 6 6

It’s the end times folks.

Satan has returned and this is just the first thing on his agenda.

 

[Pessimistic]

18m square

Test one thing, implement another. Amateur hour

 

[Father Jack]

Everytime there's changes like this announced, first thing I like to do is jump into the relevant Bigfooty thread to read the hilarious overreactions

 

[hutchy31]

I'm a bit conflicted about hands in the back. It seemed like a poor rule primarily because it wasn't officiated with any level of consistency, possibly because it's hard to determine when you're watching half a dozen other things - so maybe removing it is a good thing.

Except I can envisage a lot more actual pushes in the back being let go now, leading to forwards being disadvantaged when leading and/or defenders disadvantaged when going for intercepts/spoils.

Some of the other stuff just seems like changing the rules for the sake of it, as many others have mentioned. The current premiers play a decent brand of footy with tall forwards and defenders and focus on kicking/marking/intercepting, and there are some other teams coming through who have some run and gun about them. It would have evolved naturally, no real need to make these changes. I suspect they decided to do something when the quality of footy at the start of the season wasn't great and scoring was low, then that started to correct itself (at least partially) but they were already committed and felt they had to do something.

 

[Mitchell54]

Things that annoy me with these rules are the rules regulating runners and water carriers, the inability for a 3rd man up in ruck contests and lesser so rucks taking the ball don’t get called for htb

 

[Luv_our_club]

The new kick-in rules could have interesting results.

I would love to see a player like Cyril given 10 meters of space, after a clean run up, ...

He could require multiple defenders manning the kick in to stop him running past and gaining an extra 15 meters before the kick.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

So they want to speed up the game and make the game faster but now we won't let the players get a drink when they need one. Are they going to increase the number of water carriers to 8-10 so everyone can get a drink in the short time they have out there.

 

[juss]

The rules of the game committee have no idea. They make knee jerk reaction unnecessary changes, while failing to change rules or interpretations that would actually benefit the game. These guys are destroying Aussie rules football. A disgrace to the once great game.

 

[Frazb]

Grabbing the ball out of the ruck. Repeat stoppage after repeat stoppage coming up.

Agreed i find this rule counterproductive to congestion. Would like to hear the rule comittees logic behind this. The way it was previously the ruckmen would never take possesion of the ball unless he thought he could get a clean possesion away reducing any chance oc congestion.

 

[mouncey2franklin]

Not sure what the hysteria is about. The rules seem pretty measured and pretty good to me, doesn't seem a whole lot you could exploit.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

I see nothing 'game breaking or RIP football' about the new rules. The kick to yourself before playing on is so redundant so who cares if that's gone.

And they seem to have eliminated the nominated ruck rule unless 'no obvious ruckman' is in the area then that person must nominate.

Though removing the prior opportunity from a ruckman who grabs the ball out of the ruck seems counter intuitive to the new rules they're bringing in

 

[mouncey2franklin]

Hold on a second, didn't they change the ruck rules a few years ago to 'stop congestion'? And now they are changing them back again?

If you let the ruckmen take possession of the ball, get tackled, and have a new ball up, then that is exactly what they will do if/when trying to waste time.

It is also what they will do to reverse/mitigate momentum or 'run-ons' as they are now known. Slow the game down.

 

[Woody15]

Im sure this rule change will be administered well and accurately.

 

[Desslok]

As much as the hands in the back rule was contentious (especially initially) .. atleast it gave the umpires a clear trigger to pay a freekick. To replace a somewhat easy rule to officiate with yet another - open to interpretation - rule, is just gonna result with players infront trying con freekicks. I woulda thought the coverage vocal crowd biased freekicks received throughout the year woulda put a line through these kinda rule reversals.

 

[mouncey2franklin]

As for the two rule changes to do with kick-ins (instant play-on, and man on the mark further back), this could change the game bigtime.

Now a fast runner with a big boot could - in theory - break the press on his own. A lot easier than in 2018 and before, anyhow.

Seems to me this could affect Sydney and Geelong more than other teams. A press might still work at Skilled and/or SCG.

The MCG and Optus are far too wide.

 

[Jcpdragonx]

Don’t mind most of these changes.

Ruck one shouldn’t have been touched
Push in the back creates more grey area and is an incentive for diving

 

[Roobs321]

The rules on close inspection seem fairly measured and (mostly) purposeful in their implementation, so I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Even so, the following seem foolish to me:

- Kick-in can play on automatically (will have some controversy)
- (Nominated) ruckman taking possession no longer regarded as prior (will be exploited)

And the scale of the rule changes is overdone, some unnecessary, some feel the need to emphasize an explicit interpretation. The general push is for less scrimmage and more flowing, highlights football, which seems disingenuous (I've never agreed that they have the mandate to do this). Marking defenders might be able to break the web/forward press.

I look forward to the defensive masterminds making a mockery of the rule change intent and maintaining, stoppage-heavy, boundary-hugging, low scores. The good teams will make football and tactics look good, the bad teams will make football and tactics look lame, the comp will remain more standardised, professional and athletic than your VFL goalfests of lore.

Here's hoping 2019 is a great season regardless, willing to let these play out despite a few misgivings.

 

[dsomrox]

The nominating a ruckman is still a load of crap.

No need to nominate, 1 for each team goes up no matter who it is, if an extra goes up from one team , it's a free kick, it is that damn simple, Iit will quicken the game if the ump just throws it straight up rather than waiting for the ruck man to arrive.

Except if you don't identify a ruckman then how does the umpire adjudicate all the blocking that happens at every ball up. At a ball up only the ruckman is protected from blocking, if the umpire doesn't know who the ruckman is, how will this work? This would be easily exploited by coaches.

 

[Pessimistic]

6 6 6

It’s the end times folks.

Satan has returned and this is just the first thing on his agenda.

They invoked the Satan thing, pissed off potential Chinese fans and it’s not even 6 6 6.

It’s 1+5. 2+4. 5+1.

So what tipped of player will be put in th goalsquare? Tall or fast? Probably both. This in the middle of trade week. Imagine you are currently negotiating for a tall to join/leave your club

Clubs will be legitimately pissed off

 

[KnaveyBlue]

I thought the 6-6-6 would see six players from each team in each of the "thirds" of the ground.

But 12 people crammed inside the 50 at every centre bounce?

Big forwards are going to be more valuable than ever because every quick kick out of the centre is going to go to a huge pack in the forward 50.

Does this mean Casboult's stocks just went up?

 

[Roobs321]

I thought the 6-6-6 would see six players from each team in each of the "thirds" of the ground.

But 12 people crammed inside the 50 at every centre bounce?

Big forwards are going to be more valuable than ever because every quick kick out of the centre is going to go to a huge pack in the forward 50.

Does this mean Casboult's stocks just went up?

It's the only way you could really attempt to officiate it, as AFL isn't necessarily a line-out field game. The 50 is a little crammed for this purpose, but the easier way to do it. The only other option is starting your boundary umpires (or having markers) at particular line positions as a guide.

 

[donbooger]

Happy they refused the 18 meter square and just moved back the markman 5m, there was no need for visual change. Play on saves a second or two, both rules will help breaking presses and more ball movement up and down the ground. Good changes in the right area.

6 6 6 Dunno, I guess they have there reasons.

Hands in the back gone, awesome.

Failing to scrap the nominated ruck, thats a shame. Also the no prior gone for ruckmen is interesting. Certainly hurts the teams that nominate midfielders or no one because now the real ruckmen will collect and boot the ball 50 every time. Will need to watch the repercussions of this rule change.

The rest is no big deal, all round pretty happy with these and looking forward to seeing them next year.