News 2019 Rumour File - discuss rumours here! (Part 2)

courageous_tom

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Ideally we get Grundy as a RFA and trade out Brouch or keep him.

If Brouch walks to another Club and we get a 1st rounder for him and we are a bottom Club, ideally we should trade for Grundy where the trade is less than the value of the 1st rounder compensation we get for Brouch. Otherwise we lose Brouch compensation.
I think you have these the wrong way around. We're better off receiving free agency compensation for Brad (possibly a pick in the 4-8 range), and then trading for Grundy.

Collingwood will be good again next year, and likely finish top 4. Their best hope of compensation for losing Grundy to Free agency will be a pick in the 15-20 range, immediately after their first round pick. If we can trade with Collingwood for Grundy, and offer them something better than that, they'll be likely to take it.

In that situation we would try and package up second rounders to get a pick around the 10-12 mark. With all the talk about how many academy / father son players are in next years draft, there will likely be a few teams wanting to trade out of the top end picks to accumulate more points.

That way we keep our first round pick, say pick 4, get pick 5 for Crouch, and Grundy for a bunch of second rounders. You could then offer pick 5 and a future first for Luko.
 

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Vader

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Totally agree on 3 of those 4. But we will be absolutely up to our eyeballs in Grundy
We will be up to our eyeballs, but we won't be landing him. Grundy is just "doing a Pav", using us to drive up his asking price without having any intention of leaving Collingwood. The Pies will eventually pay him what he asks, even if it means shedding 2 or 3 lesser players in order to do so.
 

Mego Red

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I think you have these the wrong way around. We're better off receiving free agency compensation for Brad (possibly a pick in the 4-8 range), and then trading for Grundy.

Collingwood will be good again next year, and likely finish top 4. Their best hope of compensation for losing Grundy to Free agency will be a pick in the 15-20 range, immediately after their first round pick. If we can trade with Collingwood for Grundy, and offer them something better than that, they'll be likely to take it.

In that situation we would try and package up second rounders to get a pick around the 10-12 mark. With all the talk about how many academy / father son players are in next years draft, there will likely be a few teams wanting to trade out of the top end picks to accumulate more points.

That way we keep our first round pick, say pick 4, get pick 5 for Crouch, and Grundy for a bunch of second rounders. You could then offer pick 5 and a future first for Luko.
If they're going to all the trouble of clearing enough salary cap room to be able to match a free agent bid on Grundy, then they're going to want a lot more than the crouch pick.

We ended up doing better than that with the Dangerfield trade. We improved the first round pick position by number of spots, we got a good second-round pick and picked up some other steak knives.
 

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Kane McGoodwin

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We will be up to our eyeballs, but we won't be landing him. Grundy is just "doing a Pav", using us to drive up his asking price without having any intention of leaving Collingwood. The Pies will eventually pay him what he asks, even if it means shedding 2 or 3 lesser players in order to do so.
Pav initially wanted to come home, but we chose Carey instead...
 

Vader

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We would have as there were draft sanctions. And was Wells really playing this year?
We never had pick #2. Never.

We received pick #4 from Richmond, for Kane Johnson. We traded that pick to North, for Carey. It was only after the conclusion of trade week that Carlton was stripped of picks #1 and #2, and pick #4 was shuffled up to pick #2.PNG

Both Richmond and Adelaide are on record as saying that they never would have traded the pick, if they knew that it would become pick #2 (Wells).

We wouldn't have had pick #2, because Richmond wouldn't have given it to us in the first place.
 

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