News 2019 Rumour File - discuss rumours here! (Part 2)

WaynesWorld19

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Jackson at 3 4 5 or 6, all of Melbourne, Us Sydney and Gws have expressed intrest in him. After Melbourne's pick 3 if Jackson is there Freo will be on the phone to us. Asking what do you want for 4
I seriously can't see Jackson going before #7 ......basically a James Sellar scenario ....198cm athletic big man ....too short for AFL Ruck and very little forward experience ....whoever drafts him, will try and make a fwd out of him ....sound familiar with Sellars?
 

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BunjiMac

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But you can only select from the talent available
That's all I'm asking. Have the balls to say this is the absolute best player you can pick at pick 4.

If he's as good as people say, then having pick 4 and being able to pluck the best player out of the remaining pool should be pretty good foundation for gunnage.

If you think about every draft there's at least 4 genuine guns that come out of it.

He simply needs to pick 1.
 

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That's all I'm asking. Have the balls to say this is the absolute best player you can pick at pick 4.

If he's as good as people say, then having pick 4 and being able to pluck the best player out of the remaining pool should be pretty good foundation for gunnage.

If you think about every draft there's at least 4 genuine guns that come out of it.

He simply needs to pick 1.
It's easy to say that if talent was rated on a static list everyone picks from. If you rate a player as the best player available on your list, but you know you can move down and still get him and improve later picks, why wouldn't you do that?
 

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So Reece Homfray article today says we haven't talked to Kelly about the football GM job and are likely to invest more in development coaching rather than a senior assistant for Nicks with the belief Nicks feels comfortable with who is there given Mattner, Godden and Clarke have all won premierships at different levels of football and the level of youth we'll have coming in over the next few years.
 

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So Reece Homfray article today says we haven't talked to Kelly about the football GM job and are likely to invest more in development coaching rather than a senior assistant for Nicks with the belief Nicks feels comfortable with who is there given Mattner, Godden and Clarke have all won premierships at different levels of football and the level of youth we'll have coming in over the next few years.
Something doesn’t compute. He looks a strong candidate, if you’re conducting a thorough review how could he not have interviewed him yet? Who have they interviewed?
 

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Something doesn’t compute. He looks a strong candidate, if you’re conducting a thorough review how could he not have interviewed him yet? Who have they interviewed?
Crows are gonna deny everything that gets asked of them until they announce who has the job. It's just what they do.
 

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So all those leaks through the year came from josh Jenkins right ? Care to explain what happened behind the scenes.
Just has a big mouth and desperately wants a career in media after football. His ego is very large and is a quite polarizing person so ruffled a few feathers.
 

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Kane McGoodwin

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Exactly. It’s not every year u get an opportunity to land 2 top 5 players....unless your gifted freebies like GC
GWS currently have picks 6, 40, 59, 60 & 80.

If they traded next year's 1st rounder & pick 6 for pick 4, they would even lose more points/picks next year when they need to match.

They would be paying heaps for 2 top 5 picks.

Still think more likely they use pick 6 to get more points for matching the bid & still have a late 1st rounder / early 2nd rounder to use.
 

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GWS currently have picks 6, 40, 59, 60 & 80.

If they traded next year's 1st rounder & pick 6 for pick 4, they would even lose more points/picks next year when they need to match.

They would be paying heaps for 2 top 5 picks.

Still think more likely they use pick 6 to get more points for matching the bid & still have a late 1st rounder / early 2nd rounder to use.
But they had that and used them to get pick 6
 

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GWS currently have picks 6, 40, 59, 60 & 80.

If they traded next year's 1st rounder & pick 6 for pick 4, they would even lose more points/picks next year when they need to match.

They would be paying heaps for 2 top 5 picks.

Still think more likely they use pick 6 to get more points for matching the bid & still have a late 1st rounder / early 2nd rounder to use.
If we really wanted that 2020 1st from them and melbourne have passed on bidding on green on the night then before we name green as a bid could we not swap pick 4 for 6 and their 2020 1st and maybe we give them a 2020 2nd (bulldogs not ours) or 2020 3rd back to help offset the big points loss they will take. Really it should be almost a no brainer from their end unless they think they will get a better player with their late 1st they will likely get next year than a top 4 pick this year. And that is not likely to be the case. Therefore why waste resources trading back down just to save a 2020 1st rounder when they can get 2 x top 5 rated kids now.
 

Samcro24

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Why are people so keen to trade pick 4?

The scenarios I see coming up mostly look like junk if another team wants pick 4, they pay a premium.
I am of the opinion that we should just hold it.

Given the way we have travelled recently, just dont be cute. Its bound to backfire. Hell, the pick swap nearly didnt come off in the end.
 

Kane McGoodwin

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If we really wanted that 2020 1st from them and melbourne have passed on bidding on green on the night then before we name green as a bid could we not swap pick 4 for 6 and their 2020 1st and maybe we give them a 2020 2nd (bulldogs not ours) or 2020 3rd back to help offset the big points loss they will take. Really it should be almost a no brainer from their end unless they think they will get a better player with their late 1st they will likely get next year than a top 4 pick this year. And that is not likely to be the case. Therefore why waste resources trading back down just to save a 2020 1st rounder when they can get 2 x top 5 rated kids now.
Why do we want to bank 1st rounders next year?

Next year is compromised & we have 2 bid prospects so points more an issue for us.

Further we need the best picks this year given we need to replace plenty of players, so pushing back picks to next year is crazy.

We should only be trading pick 4 if it allows us to get 2 top 10 picks this year. We have never had an opportunity to draft a top 5 player before so would need significant overs to give up the opportunity.
 

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I am of the opinion that we should just hold it.

Given the way we have travelled recently, just dont be cute. Its bound to backfire. Hell, the pick swap nearly didnt come off in the end.
Yeah, holding it sounds like the best plan. If it was getting sold off, I'd want something far better than mid first range picks
 

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Why do we want to bank 1st rounders next year?

Next year is compromised & we have 2 bid prospects so points more an issue for us.

Further we need the best picks this year given we need to replace plenty of players, so pushing back picks to next year is crazy.

We should only be trading pick 4 if it allows us to get 2 top 10 picks this year. We have never had an opportunity to draft a top 5 player before so would need significant overs to give up the opportunity.
I'd drop 2 spots in this draft for an extra 1st next year that we could use to trade back into this years draft if we wanted. It is only a drop of 2 spots
 

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