News 2019 Rumour File - discuss rumours here! (Part 2)

SaltPeter

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Just my opinion, but I reckon we only really need that thread during trade period, as our club seems so water tight the rest of the year that no other rumours really get out. It needs to involve third parties for any chance of having anything worthwhile posted there. And it saved from having to read through 15 pages of this thread every day for the whispers and news for the day.
This is the Elite Crow masterpiece. Surely you'd want to include him in any proposals for the thread moving forward ..?
 

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to be fair we don't know what the review found or said. we only know the decisions taken, which for a variety of political expedient reasons might not be completely aligned with the findings, nor that the decisions were the complete or accurate response to the findings and recommendations
We don’t but I can’t see Roo or Chapman burning Burton if Fagan was the problem
 

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Just my opinion, but I reckon we only really need that thread during trade period, as our club seems so water tight the rest of the year that no other rumours really get out. It needs to involve third parties for any chance of having anything worthwhile posted there. And it saved from having to read through 15 pages of this thread every day for the whispers and news for the day.
This is the Elite Crow masterpiece. Surely you'd want to include him in any proposals for the thread moving forward ..?
If there aren’t rumours then the thread just disappears until there are some, it’s not a thread that needs to be continually posted in just to be relevant.

The Carlton one only really ramps up during trade period and gets bumped when anything else pops up and that works well.

But it’s not up to me to decide.
 

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Yep given that Chapman and co pumped his tyres up continuously, unfair dismal, but don’t worry Chappy survives, even cockroaches survive nuclear disasters
No, they don't but the tide needs to turn more. Just look at the Westpac situation, a deplorable scenario and what did the CEO say? I'm the right person to fix this, I shouldn't stand down" and he wouldn't have stood down had the media not gone on the attack with the shareholders right behind them.

Wait, he's safe
 

SaltPeter

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If there aren’t rumours then the thread just disappears until there are some, it’s not a thread that needs to be continually posted in just to be relevant.

The Carlton one only really ramps up during trade period and gets bumped when anything else pops up and that works well.

But it’s not up to me to decide.
And I'm ok with that
 

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If there aren’t rumours then the thread just disappears until there are some, it’s not a thread that needs to be continually posted in just to be relevant.

The Carlton one only really ramps up during trade period and gets bumped when anything else pops up and that works well.

But it’s not up to me to decide.
Makes sense but the Carlton one seems to stay relevant year round as the club leaks like a sieve whereas no one on this board has had genuine inside Intel for years.
 

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If all you were trying to do was get vocal members off your back regardless of what was the actual cause of issues. If you were looking for the easiest change to make that would make outsiders happy. Sacking Burton and Campo would be a perfect choice.

#slidingdoors
 

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The thing with Burton though, wasn’t there info that his reviews had been positive? I imagine they would have been given the way management backed him in.

So being sacked would have been a shock and he most probably thinks he does have grounds.
I am so pleased that Burton has gone. Having said that what I cant understand is how the company backed him, praised him for his efforts and also praised him for his character and then they sack him. To me that doesnt make a lot of sense. But having said that, I believe that the club paid Burton out. Its my understanding that if Burton accepted the cheque and banked it then he doesn't have a case. If he refused the money then he might have a case.
 

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If all you were trying to do was get vocal members off your back regardless of what was the actual cause of issues. If you were looking for the easiest change to make that would make outsiders happy. Sacking Burton and Campo would be a perfect choice.

#slidingdoors
that’s my point

it’s all rather convenient
 

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I am so pleased that Burton has gone. Having said that what I cant understand is how the company backed him, praised him for his efforts and also praised him for his character and then they sack him. To me that doesnt make a lot of sense. But having said that, I believe that the club paid Burton out. Its my understanding that if Burton accepted the cheque and banked it then he doesn't have a case. If he refused the money then he might have a case.
what matters is what he signed not whether he banked the cheque
 

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That’s the problem the club faces
Depends on who was conducting them and based upon who’s ratings. Gut feel is that Fagan was isolated from footy ops, so even if he delivered the review, it wouldn’t be his judgements. The other incompetents are Burto’s higher ups, who are both unpaid board members, not employees. It reeks of the divide between Fagan and the other guys that was mentioned a while ago in here. Surely nobody can see Fagan micro-managing Burto or Burto taking any notice if he did. And no doubt that the review would have had to have been horrific for Roo and Chappo to move on their mate.
 

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I wonder how Burton's internal performance reviews were over the last couple of years?
That's the thing that interests me.

Externally we know that he was backed in so much to the point it was embarrassing.

I would hope internally there were some scathing reviews and 'coaching' going on - although not sure the Bird would have taken too much on.
 

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Of course he’s going to be after Fagan as Fagan pushed for the review.

He got the arse because of the review, the review found Burton was the problem. Now the arrogant w***er is still so deluded he doesn’t think he’s responsible.

Who set up the camp, Fagan or Burton?

Who do the coaches and players that have left have a problem with, Fagan or Burton?

Burton is a cock
Unfortunately it seems like Burton was given the message that he was doing well, performing at a high level, and was a very strong employee.

And then, from his perspective he's thrown under the bus.

It's hard to understand how our internal management and communication can be so messed up.
 

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Unfortunately it seems like Burton was given the message that he was doing well, performing at a high level, and was a very strong employee.

And then, from his perspective he's thrown under the bus.

It's hard to understand how our internal management and communication can be so messed up.
Because it’s a boys club and they are ******* useless
 

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