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Drake Huggins

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Maybe that suggests it’s the ability of players. I know we all hope it the coaches but I just see ordinary footballers
A combination of both, methinks. Terrible skills combined with clueless coaching. A deadly combination. It's not as though Hamill doesn't have form in the s**thouse coaching stakes.
 

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Marsh tries hard but has real flaws and is undersized, Joyce is a liability 1v1 and gets goals kicked on him too easily, and Clav has probably been the worst performed St.Kilda listed player two years in a row (well actually he definitely has been but I was trying to be nice). Also Rice has played forward all year because we are determined to kill his career, and 'White forward' is the VFL version of 'Carlisle forward' which causes the floodgates to open.

Now I am sure everyone will blame the midfield. That is what most on this forum seem to blame everything on

But at this stage Sandy have had 5 more I50s (we have 46 I50s for 12 shots. They have 41 for 28 shots).

But yeah. Its always the midfields fault ...

Edit: finished with 7 more I50s and got done by 10 goals. Outside of Lonie and White in patches, and Rice trying his guts out, nothing to see here today regarding the ones next week.

Yeah, I'm not being what Clav well does yet.
 

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Goal Kickers:J. Lonie 3, K. Answerth, B. Rice
Best Players:B. Rice, R. Young, S. Rowe, B. White, J. Lonie, S. Fox
 

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Goal Kickers:J. Lonie 3, K. Answerth, B. Rice
Best Players:B. Rice, R. Young, S. Rowe, B. White, J. Lonie, S. Fox
FFS they just are just taking the p*ss now.

Yes I only watched on tv, but seriously Young 2nd best? Really??

Who the hell comes up with this bulls**t every week?
 
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Seriously they just are just taking the p*ss now.

Yes I only watched on tv, but seriously Young 2nd best? Really??

Who the hell comes up with this bulls**t every week?

Mr Magoo ...


Awful performance like watching a car crash .

The only bloke who made sense was Barlow in commentary.

“Particularly relevant was Sandy just bombing the ball , continue to ignore kicking the ball at 45 degrees “
to players in the open.
 

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Mr Magoo ...


Awful performance like watching a car crash .

The only bloke who made sense was Barlow in commentary.

“Particularly relevant was Sandy just bombing the ball , continue to ignore kicking the ball at 45 degrees “
to players in the open.
No relationship at all between VFL results and AFL is there? Writing was on the wall 2 or 3 years ago ...
 

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Marsh tries hard but has real flaws and is undersized, Joyce is a liability 1v1 and gets goals kicked on him too easily, and Clav has probably been the worst performed St.Kilda listed player two years in a row (well actually he definitely has been but I was trying to be nice). Also Rice has played forward all year because we are determined to kill his career, and 'White forward' is the VFL version of 'Carlisle forward' which causes the floodgates to open.

Now I am sure everyone will blame the midfield. That is what most on this forum seem to blame everything on

But at this stage Sandy have had 5 more I50s (we have 46 I50s for 12 shots. They have 41 for 28 shots).

But yeah. Its always the midfields fault ...

Edit: finished with 7 more I50s and got done by 10 goals. Outside of Lonie and White in patches, and Rice trying his guts out, nothing to see here today regarding the ones next week.
Agree with most of it , for me Clavarino is a confused kid still like him , think he is over coached and lost
confidence in the role , was actually going well preseason , so was Joyce also, but think the later just panics.
Personally like Marsh , also will be handy backman going forward , don’t think he is fan of Hamill .

White been discussed many times .

The major issue I have with the alignment is all other clubs have strong nucleus of surburban & country
footballers filling the void in their squad , the Mornington Football league is full of them yet Sandy fill up
with kids from Amateur clubs on the cheap , hurts the development big time.
 

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Agree with most of it , for me Clavarino is a confused kid still like him , think he is over coached and lost
An elite intercept junior was probably never going to thrive in our system. Just a guess, but I would imagine he is getting the same instructions that Coffield and White have been getting about accountability and defence. Getting the same results too ...

don’t think he is fan of Hamill .
Is anyone? Great player, yes. But as a coach??

The major issue I have with the alignment is all other clubs have strong nucleus of surburban & country
footballers filling the void in their squad , the Mornington Football league is full of them yet Sandy fill up
with kids from Amateur clubs on the cheap , hurts the development big time.
Agree that is an issue absolutely. Disagree it is THE major issue.

Just my 2 cents, but biggest issue I see is the complete disconnect between the roles players execute at VFL, and what they are asked to perform at AFL. Amateur hour stuff

Yes that is related to recruitment somewhat, but not exclusively. Poor clubs can still field competitive teams, they have to just be smarter with their $$. Especially when it comes to their experienced heads. Seccull is a great pick up. Gilbo I understand completely too.

But perhaps paying someone like M.Barlow instead of N.Wright may have been a better investment...
 
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An elite intercept junior was never going to thrive in our system. Just a guess, but I would imagine he has been getting the same instructions that Coffield and White have been getting about accountability and defence. Getting the same results too ...



Is anyone? Great player, yes. But as a coach??



Agree that is an issue absolutely. Disagree it is THE major issue.

Biggest issue I see is the complete disconnect between the roles players execute at VFL, and what they are asked to perform at AFL. Amateur hour stuff

Yes that is related to recruitment somewhat, but not exclusively. Poor clubs can still field competitive teams, they have to just be smarter with their $$. Especially when it comes to their experienced heads. Seccull is a great pick up. Gilbo I understand completely too.

But perhaps paying someone like M.Barlow instead of N.Wright may have been a better investment...

Probably overplayed major issue .

Bartel said something today pre game thought was spot on , said young guys will kick the ball towards
boundary line outside 50 going forward at the insistence of coaches purely because they prefer to not
score than turn it over .
 

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Probably overplayed major issue .
It is hard when there are so many issues to choose from!

Bartel said something today pre game thought was spot on , said young guys will kick the ball towards
boundary line outside 50 going forward at the insistence of coaches purely because they prefer to not
score than turn it over .
Gem of a quote. In one sentence that encapsulates much of why North have won 5 of their last 6!

And why Jy Simpkin just had 36 disposals, 21 contested possessions, 6 inside 50s, 5 score involvements and 397 metres gained
While Gresh had 12 handballs out of 18 touches, 1 inside 50 and just 134 metres gained
 
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It is hard when there are so many issues to choose from!


Gem of a quote. In one sentence that encapsulates much of why North have won 5 of their last 6!

And why Jy Simpkin just had 36 disposals, 21 contested possessions, 6 inside 50s, 5 score involvements and 397 metres gained
While Gresh had 12 handballs out of 18 touches, 1 inside 50 and just 134 metres gained
Gresh was targeted and bashed the whole game.
Did the team work to protect him??



No.
 

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White been discussed many times .

The major issue I have with the alignment is all other clubs have strong nucleus of surburban & country
footballers filling the void in their squad , the Mornington Football league is full of them yet Sandy fill up
with kids from Amateur clubs on the cheap , hurts the development big time.
Why can't Sandy keep any of the 20 odd under 18 boys ? Keep 3 or 4 of them would be great each year...
 

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Maybe I'm ignorant of the arrangement with the Zebs, but why the hell is our scenario with Jake Bachelor not standard fair of the list management? To have 3 or 4 (quality) ex afl players working at the club part time and playing at sandy to support and develop our kids seems a no brainer.
This is a serious question, does anyone know the answer??
 
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