News 2019 St Kilda Media Thread

[Persevering Saint]

Well, I for one am shocked - SHOCKED - at the suggestion that players like Stevie Lawrence may have partaken of recreational drugs. I've always assumed they were as pure as the sniffen' blow.

 

[VDS66]

Completely understandable, but why bring it up now? I understand GT is honest, it was the way he talked about it that upset the majority

Because controversy brings ratings.

The fact we are still talking about it proves my point.

 

[VDS66]

Well, I for one am shocked - SHOCKED - at the suggestion that players like Stevie Lawrence may have partaken of recreational drugs. I've always assumed they were as pure as the sniffen' blow.

The only reason Stevie Lawrence got sacked was because he wasn't Fraser Gehrig.

Even the greatest man manager in the history of the game was a hypocrite...

 

[Nutsngum]

Thats a much better kicking routine then what Ive seen from him before.

 

[StJHD]

I think it lacked class to resond specifically about St. Kilda leading into a pretty damn important preseason.
He could easily have deflected the question, but seems desperate to hold on to his media "presence".

BUT I think naming names would be even more shameful, especially if he was told this information and didn't see it himself. Putting names out there has pretty big implications for their families, jobs, friends. I'd rather hear of rumour and innuendo than have names put out there either during or post career.

Those saying drug use should be talked about and not swept under the carpet. Yeah, I agree but not by media parasites like Mike Sheahan looking for headlines to stay relevant. There's a way to discuss these things without simply trying to profit from them at the expense of others.

Finally, about being tarnished by the same brush and having to prove innocence. I think that's hogwash, and it's precious. It's like that Gilette ad suggesting men sort their s**t out. Lots of guys said they didn't want to be put in the same group as murderers, rapists e.t.c. I think that's pretty damn precious, because the problem is there and we are in the same group. The drug problem is there (whether Thomas said it or not), and those players WERE in the same group/team, and I call BS that they didn't know anything about it. Dal and co could be a bit less worried about their own image and a bit more honest and concerned for the welfare of players that are taking drugs, especially a lot of drugs.

And was Mike Sheahan's son expelled from school as a 12 year old for dealing drugs?

 

[MOLTEN GANGLANDS]

lawrence, hamil, gehrig, baker definitely (have friends that used to party with him), gram (name says it all.. ), saw monty out a few times when he was younger pretty off his face, maguire too, peckett was definitely no angel can confirm, etc.. but the thing is, who cares? I care if it's affecting their performance, or they do it in a public manner and the club loses sponsorship $$, but if not it's none of my business.

 

[Joffaboy]

lawrence, hamil, gehrig, baker definitely (have friends that used to party with him), gram (name says it all.. ), saw monty out a few times when he was younger pretty off his face, maguire too, peckett was definitely no angel can confirm, etc.. but the thing is, who cares? I care if it's affecting their performance, or they do it in a public manner and the club loses sponsorship $$, but if not it's none of my business.

Remember the first three you mentioned were too drunk for Bangkok?
End of season, they were so wasted customs wouldn't let them in to Thailand

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[Sheepey]

Underrated effort by Brown there. Looks like he went a bit out of his way to pat Lonie on the back. What you like to see.

 

[Drake Huggins]

Yeah Nah.

I'd say the ratio between mental health sufferers turning to drugs compared with people using mental health as an excuse to not get caught is about 186,653 to 1

The co-morbidity between drug use and mental health issues is confirmed by anecdotal evidence and a mountain of scientifically validated research. Whether it is a chicken or egg argument is a moot point.

Whether people start taking drugs to mask pain, or create problems through drug taking isn't the point. In either instance, the person is ill and needs help and treatment, not condemnation. Pop into any one of our prisons and you'll see the physical, mental and psychological carnage caused by the "War on Drugs".

We've tried punishment, exposure and shaming. It hasn't worked for decades, so why do we as a society persist? As for GT, he needs to stay relevant. I think I'll rename him Sandra Sully.

 

[VDS66]

The co-morbidity between drug use and mental health issues is confirmed by anecdotal evidence and a mountain of scientifically validated research. Whether it is a chicken or egg argument is a moot point.

Whether people start taking drugs to mask pain, or create problems through drug taking isn't the point. In either instance, the person is ill and needs help and treatment, not condemnation. Pop into any one of our prisons and you'll see the physical, mental and psychological carnage caused by the "War on Drugs".

We've tried punishment, exposure and shaming. It hasn't worked for decades, so why do we as a society persist? As for GT, he needs to stay relevant. I think I'll rename him Sandra Sully.

I am with you 100%

Just legalise and control the s**t already.

Either way, addiction is simply the manifestation of Society's problems and it's ****ed up moral compass IMO.

The focus on individualism over inclusion is destroying us. But that's for another time...

 

[gringo2011]

The co-morbidity between drug use and mental health issues is confirmed by anecdotal evidence and a mountain of scientifically validated research. Whether it is a chicken or egg argument is a moot point.

Whether people start taking drugs to mask pain, or create problems through drug taking isn't the point. In either instance, the person is ill and needs help and treatment, not condemnation. Pop into any one of our prisons and you'll see the physical, mental and psychological carnage caused by the "War on Drugs".

We've tried punishment, exposure and shaming. It hasn't worked for decades, so why do we as a society persist? As for GT, he needs to stay relevant. I think I'll rename him Sandra Sully.

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http://www.aei.org/publication/the-...-that-targeted-blacks-and-anti-war-activists/

 

[majortinkle]

DID WE JUST KICK TO A PLAYER AND NOT BOMB?? OMG OMG OMG OMG.

I wouldn’t go that far....he may have just been kicking to the hot spot....he kicked it before the forward led - at least it wasn’t on top of the forwards head though - chance or design the question....

 

[st_trav_ofWA]

Completely understandable, but why bring it up now? I understand GT is honest, it was the way he talked about it that upset the majority

exactly there is no point to bringing it up now ... it serves no point except to pump up the profile of Grant Thomas ....
i could tell you the drugs i tried as a kid but that doesnt tell you the person i became all it says is on one specific day i made a choice to do something i prob shouldnt have ... i reckon in GT's life there are moments like that yet i dont think his "honesty" would make him disclose them ...

 

[st_trav_ofWA]

Well we left it to the assistants last preseason and we saw how great that was.

The old head coach does everything model is long gone...

well lets just look at the midfield ... who would you rather get instruction from a 2x all australian, premiership player who captaines an AFL clum and won three b&f's in his playing days ,who coached an AFL tean and was an assistant in 3 flag winning teams ..... of a bloke who happened to coach a stacked Claremont WAFL team to a flag ....
no offence to McPhee as he is a top bloke and a good opperator but its like hopping into a ferrari after driving a moped ..

 

[Hubnester]

The co-morbidity between drug use and mental health issues is confirmed by anecdotal evidence and a mountain of scientifically validated research. Whether it is a chicken or egg argument is a moot point.

Whether people start taking drugs to mask pain, or create problems through drug taking isn't the point. In either instance, the person is ill and needs help and treatment, not condemnation. Pop into any one of our prisons and you'll see the physical, mental and psychological carnage caused by the "War on Drugs".

We've tried punishment, exposure and shaming. It hasn't worked for decades, so why do we as a society persist? As for GT, he needs to stay relevant. I think I'll rename him Sandra Sully.

This podcast was recorded today. Johann is a writer and talks in depth about addiction and the war on drugs. Shows how wrong we've been getting it for so long.
Don't worry about your opinion of Joe Rogan, if you're not a fan he doesn't take over this interview. Very well worth a listen.

 

[VDS66]

exactly there is no point to bringing it up now ... it serves no point except to pump up the profile of Grant Thomas ....
i could tell you the drugs i tried as a kid but that doesnt tell you the person i became all it says is on one specific day i made a choice to do something i prob shouldnt have ... i reckon in GT's life there are moments like that yet i dont think his "honesty" would make him disclose them ...

GTs drug of choice has always been the almighty dollar.

Case closed.

 

[Joffaboy]

exactly there is no point to bringing it up now ... it serves no point except to pump up the profile of Grant Thomas ....
i could tell you the drugs i tried as a kid but that doesnt tell you the person i became all it says is on one specific day i made a choice to do something i prob shouldnt have ... i reckon in GT's life there are moments like that yet i dont think his "honesty" would make him disclose them ...

Some of the older Saints women on Facebook were talking about Thomas at the Saints Disco and reckons he should hold his council.

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[Saint Watto]

By all means say that drug taking is a concern throughout the competition, and take the AFL to task for its drug policy, but why come out and say explicitly that it was rife at the Saints?

I really don't think much about Thommo …..he seems to come out with a controversial opinion on everything.....it gets tiresome after a while.

But why oh why did he come out with what he said...……for someone who constantly states his absolute love for the club....why say what he did knowing that a s***storm would more than likely ensue......which it has.

In my travels today several said to me..."what's going on down there"

I couldn't be bothered going into a long explanation with each person.

I'm gobsmacked that given the above he didn't at least temper his comments....be a little vague or something.

Very very disappointing.

 

[gringo2011]

exactly there is no point to bringing it up now ... it serves no point except to pump up the profile of Grant Thomas ....
i could tell you the drugs i tried as a kid but that doesnt tell you the person i became all it says is on one specific day i made a choice to do something i prob shouldnt have ... i reckon in GT's life there are moments like that yet i dont think his "honesty" would make him disclose them ...

I remember Thommo got in some Russian quack who wanted him to do enemas and eat string or some s**t. He was going to try it on the playing group. I'm pretty sure he'd look back at that and realise he was probably a bit heavy on his own drug use at the time.

 

[Premium]

Why St Kilda's leadership decision stunned the Swans

Feb 21, 2019 3:20PM

Damian Barrett has questioned Dan Hannebery's leadership credentials

SYDNEY officials "nearly fell off their chairs" on learning of Dan Hannebery's appointment to St Kilda's leadership group, AFL.com.au chief football correspondent Damian Barrett has revealed.

Hannebery, who moved from the Swans to the Saints on a lucrative five-year deal, was elected to the Saints' five-man leadership group last week.

While Hannebery has committed himself at training, Barrett said the 27-year-old had reportedly failed to rein in his heavy social schedule.

BARRETT: Can Hannebery live up to his price tag - and pressure?

"He's certainly said to have a good off-season. He's got up to a bit of socialising in the off-season," Barrett said on The Sounding Board podcast.

"It is an issue because of what they've invested in him and the fact that no other club, when it came to the crunch in Trade Period last year, actually went for him.

"I think it's a questionable decision (to recruit Hannebery) right now".


This Damian Barrett character will do anything to get a headline - how can the media just downright slander someone

 

[George]

Why St Kilda's leadership decision stunned the Swans

Feb 21, 2019 3:20PM

Damian Barrett has questioned Dan Hannebery's leadership credentials

SYDNEY officials "nearly fell off their chairs" on learning of Dan Hannebery's appointment to St Kilda's leadership group, AFL.com.au chief football correspondent Damian Barrett has revealed.

Hannebery, who moved from the Swans to the Saints on a lucrative five-year deal, was elected to the Saints' five-man leadership group last week.

While Hannebery has committed himself at training, Barrett said the 27-year-old had reportedly failed to rein in his heavy social schedule.

BARRETT: Can Hannebery live up to his price tag - and pressure?

"He's certainly said to have a good off-season. He's got up to a bit of socialising in the off-season," Barrett said on The Sounding Board podcast.

"It is an issue because of what they've invested in him and the fact that no other club, when it came to the crunch in Trade Period last year, actually went for him.

"I think it's a questionable decision (to recruit Hannebery) right now".


This Damian Barrett character will do anything to get a headline - how can the media just downright slander someone

Wouldn't really bother entertaining these people's opinions.

 

[George]

Paddy McCartin on SEN
https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=335577

Matt Finnis on SEN
https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=335617

Josh Bruce on SEN
https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=335856

Jack Sinclair on SEN
https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=335897

Waiting on the audio of Nathan Brown and Jack Billings' interviews.

 

[sammm]

I remember Thommo got in some Russian quack who wanted him to do enemas and eat string or some s**t. He was going to try it on the playing group. I'm pretty sure he'd look back at that and realise he was probably a bit heavy on his own drug use at the time.

And if i remember correctly, he did try it on the players.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Wouldn't really bother entertaining these people's opinions.

You know, I was one who really questioned going after Hannebery due to his reported off field ways, but honestly that rat Barrett can just FRO.

Off season is off season and by all reports he’s been sensational leadership - wise at the club.

Jeez, DB is such a gutter journo. On one hand I wish someone at the club would come out and give him a backhander ( metaphorically speaking) but on the other hand it’s probably better if we don’t give him any ammo and just ignore the little weasel.

 

[BrutThough]

Why St Kilda's leadership decision stunned the Swans

Feb 21, 2019 3:20PM

Damian Barrett has questioned Dan Hannebery's leadership credentials

SYDNEY officials "nearly fell off their chairs" on learning of Dan Hannebery's appointment to St Kilda's leadership group, AFL.com.au chief football correspondent Damian Barrett has revealed.

Hannebery, who moved from the Swans to the Saints on a lucrative five-year deal, was elected to the Saints' five-man leadership group last week.

While Hannebery has committed himself at training, Barrett said the 27-year-old had reportedly failed to rein in his heavy social schedule.

BARRETT: Can Hannebery live up to his price tag - and pressure?

"He's certainly said to have a good off-season. He's got up to a bit of socialising in the off-season," Barrett said on The Sounding Board podcast.

"It is an issue because of what they've invested in him and the fact that no other club, when it came to the crunch in Trade Period last year, actually went for him.

"I think it's a questionable decision (to recruit Hannebery) right now".


This Damian Barrett character will do anything to get a headline - how can the media just downright slander someone

So according to this muppet - Sydney officials, a club where Dan Hannebery was a vice captain for years, nearly fell off their chairs because Hannebery, who is now the most experienced and decorated player on our list, was appointed to our leadership group.

Something tells me Damo is plucking something out of his arse here.