- Apr 24, 2013
- AFL Club
- North Melbourne
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- The Unicornia Reactants
He's extremely consistent and runs out games well. Will probably never win a Syd but he's worth -way- more to us on the field than on the trade table.Personally I wouldn't peg him for top 3. But thats the clubs view I guess.
But I don't regard him as lowly as most do. He's a cog in the machine, a bit player, every team needs and has guys like him.
Notional "decade B&F" based on top 10s from each Syd Barker count (10 points for winning through to 1 point for 10th place, treating all ties as equal finishes):
1st - Ben Cunnington - 58pts (winner 2014, 2019)
2nd - Brent Harvey - 46pts (winner 2010)
3rd - Todd Goldstein - 45pts (winner 2015)
4th - Jack Ziebell - 41pts
5th - Andrew Swallow - 39pts (winner 2011, 2012)
6th - Daniel Wells - 38pts (winner 2011, 2013)
7th - Robbie Tarrant - 34pts (winner 2016)
8th - Drew Petrie - 32pts
9th - Shaun Higgins - 31pts (winner 2017, 2018)
10th - Scott Thompson - 28pts (winner 2013)
What's interesting is the red guys being such big impact players, i.e they make those desperate 1%ers that can turn a game, but the yellows are the most consistent of the bunchNorth BF Medal (Syd Barker in brackets)
Bold = correct, red = overrated, yellow = underrated
1st Ben Cunnington - 47. (1st)
2nd Robbie Tarrant - 29. (2nd)
3rd Shaun Higgins - 26. (8th)
4th Jack Ziebell - 25. (6th)
5th Jed Anderson - 23. (14th)
6th Shaun Atley - 20. (10th)
6th Jared Polec - 20. (7th)
6th Marley Williams - 20. (16th)
6th Cameron Zurhaar - 20. (17th)
7th Todd Goldstein - 19. (3rd)
8th Ben Brown - 17. (5th)
9th Jasper Pittard - 14. (9th)
9th Jy Simpkin - 14. (15th)
10th Trent Dumont - 8. (3rd)
The Syd Barker scale is simply massive, with everyone able to get points, versus our much more traditional scoring here. It makes sense.What's interesting is the red guys being such big impact players, i.e they make those desperate 1%ers that can turn a game, but the yellows are the most consistent of the bunch
Oh I totally agree, but the fans see things very differently as we probably spend much more time praising the game saving small time parts where the club sees things more holisticallyThe Syd Barker scale is simply massive, with everyone able to get points, versus our much more traditional scoring here. It makes sense.
Pick the top ten, not in order though.Got NFI what they see in Dumont, and going by the pre-count tips, neither does the rest of this board.
2 x posters tipped him to come 10th.
1 x poster tipped him to come 9th.
1 x poster tipped him to come 6th.
No one else had him in their places.
If you are talking about this board's extremely basic voting system where the least worst player in a 100 point loss earns the same number of points for that game as a 30+ contested possession game in a win against the top team, then yeah, the Syd Barker makes sense. Big Footy board voting system needs an overhaul desperately.The Syd Barker scale is simply massive, with everyone able to get points, versus our much more traditional scoring here. It makes sense.
Maybe I see too much of his foot skill as a key weakness of his game or maybe it was just in crucial periods of play I saw him turn it over?Dumont has gut run for a couple of years and this year he put in noticeably more 'desperate' efforts. Has pretty much improved his body and game each and every year he's been at the club. I suspect he's been forced to pick up a lot of the slack of a defensively (and speed and endurance) lacking midfield, and that's what the coaches are seeing.
He has some really good delivery into the 50 when he's got time and space (though I'd definitely say it wasn't as evident this year). However he's as likely to miskick as anyone else when he's disposing under pressure or after gut running for 30 seconds, which is pretty often. Also not the best handballer going around regardless of circumstance.Maybe I see too much of his foot skill as a key weakness of his game or maybe it was just in crucial periods of play I saw him turn it over?