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Yeah Geelong, Like Sydney and Adelaide never really truly drop off.

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Geelong were in decline before they got Dangerfield, 2015 they finished 10th.

Since then they've got a lot of top ups (Stanley, Smith, Rohan, Touhy, Dalhaus etc) but with the core of their list still old they are in for a fall soon IMO
 

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Geelong were in decline before they got Dangerfield, 2015 they finished 10th.

Since then they've got a lot of top ups (Stanley, Smith, Rohan, Touhy, Dalhaus etc) but with the core of their list still old they are in for a fall soon IMO
It's been said for almost 10 years that Geelong were going to fall off a cliff, they just don't. Having a strong culture like they do will always keep them in the mix.
 

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It's been said for almost 10 years that Geelong were going to fall off a cliff, they just don't. Having a strong culture like they do will always keep them in the mix.
That home ground advantage plays a massive part in them staying around the eight but come finals that's where you see the 'cliff drop'.
 

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Geelong were in decline before they got Dangerfield, 2015 they finished 10th.

Since then they've got a lot of top ups (Stanley, Smith, Rohan, Touhy, Dalhaus etc) but with the core of their list still old they are in for a fall soon IMO
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It's been said for almost 10 years that Geelong were going to fall off a cliff, they just don't. Having a strong culture like they do will always keep them in the mix.
They were in a downfall though before they lucked out and Dangerfield decided to come home which propped them back up.
Stanley 29
Touhy 30
Ablett 35
Taylor 33
Smith 29
J.Selwood 31
S.Selwood 29
Duncan 28
Rohan 28
Henderson 30
Hawkins 31
Dangerfield 29

Majority of the above is there core players, unless they luck out and have a top 3 player in the comp move to them again in the next few years they are in for some pain.
 

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10th is not bottoming out.

3 years of poo (2008-2010) and a spoon was bottoming out.

Getting good kids, picks etc and few years in the system they deliver a flag.

Its a long process but if we dont win another flag in the next 3-4 years history says we will be closer to another bottoming out than a rise.

Ive said before in my lifetime we are averaging a flag every 8 years. I think most clubs would take that.

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I said they were in a decline / downfall, I didn't say they bottomed out.

Sliding doors but if Dangerfield didnt come home end of 2015 they would have entered a rebuild then instead of chasing tops ups like they did.
 

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Why would you want to? He sucks.

He has one weapon, similar to Petch, and that is outpace his opponent running back towards goal. That's it. Other than that one trick, he's not AFL standard.



No disrespect meant to Petch either. He's only in his second year, compared to Pickett who's failed to add anything else to his arsenal after 5 seasons.
 

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Why would you want to? He sucks.

He has one weapon, similar to Petch, and that is outpace his opponent running back towards goal. That's it. Other than that one trick, he's not AFL standard.



No disrespect meant to Petch either. He's only in his second year, compared to Pickett who's failed to add anything else to his arsenal after 5 seasons.
I agree,thought he was drafted way too high,he'd have to put in a couple of good seasons in the wafl to be considered again

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We’d want to hope O’Neil, Foley or Williams turn out to be more than role players.. I think that’s the most disappointing thing about the whole saga for me. Yes we might have stood our ground.. but did we actually get anything useful doing it? Yes we kept the picks but it’s all worthless if we go and blow them anyway. Looking like we’re going to have to give up our first and second at minimum this year for Kelly. So they get the pick they wanted in the deal last year anyway, the other picks we kept have more than likely just given us a couple of role players.. and that all would have netted us a top 10 player in the league in our position of greatest need..
 

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We’d want to hope O’Neil, Foley or Williams turn out to be more than role players.. I think that’s the most disappointing thing about the whole saga for me. Yes we might have stood our ground.. but did we actually get anything useful doing it? Yes we kept the picks but it’s all worthless if we go and blow them anyway. Looking like we’re going to have to give up our first and second at minimum this year for Kelly. So they get the pick they wanted in the deal last year anyway, the other picks we kept have more than likely just given us a couple of role players.. and that all would have netted us a top 10 player in the league in our position of greatest need..
And paying him 300k per year more.
 

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We’d want to hope O’Neil, Foley or Williams turn out to be more than role players.. I think that’s the most disappointing thing about the whole saga for me. Yes we might have stood our ground.. but did we actually get anything useful doing it? Yes we kept the picks but it’s all worthless if we go and blow them anyway. Looking like we’re going to have to give up our first and second at minimum this year for Kelly. So they get the pick they wanted in the deal last year anyway, the other picks we kept have more than likely just given us a couple of role players.. and that all would have netted us a top 10 player in the league in our position of greatest need..
We had 22 and 23 and ended up using 28, 31, 35 and gaining an extra second round pick this year that looks like being in the 20s.

It's not a terrible result and no one actually knows whether 22 + 23 + 2019 1st + 2019 2nd + Simmo's first born child would've made any difference anyway. A lot of speculation being reported but I don't think they had any actual intention of trading for what we had.
 

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We had 22 and 23 and ended up using 28, 31, 35 and gaining an extra second round pick this year that looks like being in the 20s.

It's not a terrible result and no one actually knows whether 22 + 23 + 2019 1st + 2019 2nd + Simmo's first born child would've made any difference anyway. A lot of speculation being reported but I don't think they had any actual intention of trading for what we had.
Yeah that was part of my point. We did all the fancy dealing but it looks like we’re going to have to give up that Sydney second and our first, at minimum, anyway. At best, from standing our ground, the only profit we have made is getting that extra pick for Williams. The entire desicion basically hangs on at least 2 of our 2018 second round draftees becoming above average players. I do agree, it’s speculative whether they would’ve traded him anyway.. but that was their counteroffer, surely they aren’t declining their own offer.
 

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We’d want to hope O’Neil, Foley or Williams turn out to be more than role players.. I think that’s the most disappointing thing about the whole saga for me. Yes we might have stood our ground.. but did we actually get anything useful doing it? Yes we kept the picks but it’s all worthless if we go and blow them anyway. Looking like we’re going to have to give up our first and second at minimum this year for Kelly. So they get the pick they wanted in the deal last year anyway, the other picks we kept have more than likely just given us a couple of role players.. and that all would have netted us a top 10 player in the league in our position of greatest need..
Much easier to say after a loss, but I kind of agree.

There’s no way Geelong would be top of the ladder right now without Kelly IMO, and it’s difficult to imagine us not being a much stronger prospect.

As it stands right now, the decision for Kelly to stay at Geelong in 2019 is set to have a significant bearing on the result of the season.

Their ageing side knows this is the best opportunity they have for a flag and that’s driving them with the same irresistible momentum that drove 2016 WB and 2018 Melbourne (until we broke them).

If we managed to pry out Kelly, assuming that was a possibility, I reckon Geelong doesn’t perform close to this level. Long term those picks/players traded would have benefitted them. But by then Ablett would be maxy
 

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Don't mistake Geelong FC for their fans. Geelong are usually reasonable to deal with, their fans are nuffies who don't get how trading works.

Not trading Kelly for a year has worked out well for them so far but if he wants out this year and doesn't want Freo their fans won't get their two top 10 picks nonsense.
2 top 10 picks ? Wtf

By the end of the year we will be throwing in andrew gaff aswell
 
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