List Mgmt. 2019 Trade & Free Agency Thread V2

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Sounds just like turner does it not... plenty of tackles but very little possession or goals...


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Yeah and I don't even want him in the forward line let alone another one.

There must be a few quick smalls around Australia that can quick goals - if we can't get Pickett
 

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Yeah and I don't even want him in the forward line let alone another one.

There must be a few quick smalls around Australia that can quick goals - if we can't get Pickett
Agree neither do I! the only positive is he could be a replacement for turner but concern he ain’t much of an upgrade. Surely if we do move up slightly to early 20s must be able to get Pickett or Taylor


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A touch more upside, maybe.

Turner has shown a lot more, which isn’t saying much for Jones.
I really like Kayne, but he doesn't have the recovery and acceleration to press multiple opponents in quick succession. It's a physical constraint not that he's unwilling.

If Jones has the ability to press, quickly regroup and press again in a different direction this is something we lack. Zurhaar does it but having a smaller more nimble player adding to the chaos might be helpful.

LT and Campbell at their peak did this quite well.
 

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I really like Kayne, but he doesn't have the recovery and acceleration to press multiple opponents in quick succession. It's a physical constraint not that he's unwilling.

If Jones has the ability to press, quickly regroup and press again in a different direction this is something we lack. Zurhaar does it but having a smaller more nimble player adding to the chaos might be helpful.

LT and Campbell at their peak did this quite well.
That’s what I was alluding to, but I’ve only seen highlights and second hand descriptions of Jones.
 
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I really like Kayne, but he doesn't have the recovery and acceleration to press multiple opponents in quick succession. It's a physical constraint not that he's unwilling.

If Jones has the ability to press, quickly regroup and press again in a different direction this is something we lack. Zurhaar does it but having a smaller more nimble player adding to the chaos might be helpful.

LT and Campbell at their peak did this quite well.
I agree. Turner is just the T1000 running in a straight line locking onto his target.

The only problem is instead of incorporating Skynet's technology...he got Forest Gumps.
 

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Miers had a great season, and Narkle finished 2019 strongly. Squeezed out perhaps. Happy to have him compete with Turner, or even both play. May be good for Kayne, he might actually kick some goals

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Tough to compete with both miers and narkle. Happy to compete but no way can play both... if we are revamping the mid the half forward will need to house ziebel Higgins potentially hall plus all that played there last year and hosie competing too


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I agree. Turner is just the T1000 running in a straight line locking onto his target.

The only problem is instead of incorporating Skynet's technology...he got Forest Gumps.

Richmond have won two premierships with 6 blokes just like him.
 

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Richmond have won two premierships with 6 blokes just like him.
Really only Butler resembles Kayne as a player. All of Rioli, Castangna, and Higgins are very different footballers and much more effective forwards. Hell even Butler is statistically superior, and they basically delisted him.

Both Richmond and West Coast demonstrated you can build a forward line around smaller types IF they are able to both pressure, set up scores and hit the scoreboard themselves.

On the other hand, we currently have one small forward, who rates poor for goals, poor for score involvements, average for tackles inside 50, average for forward pressure and average for one percenters.

Imo, he's the embodiment of 'tries hard, not quite good enough'; and we desperately need to upgrade our small forward stocks at this draft.
 

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Their opponents are panicking everytime the best offensive mid in the game charges into the zone. Makes it a bit easier for them to do their jobs.
Fair enough, but at what stage do we move from excusing poor games?

Ive heard excuses ranging from he is only young, it was a failure of the forward line setup, we are too Brown centric, our inside 50s are poor then it was the coach and game plan isn't conducive to small forwards etc. Now it's a new coach with half a season and a new game plan and there has been no change in output. No coincidence his two best games for the year was against Gold Coast and Melbourne, where he played as a defender. Needs more footy, more goals, more tackles. And by those measures, he is well behind most in the competition, not just the tigers.

If only we used the same blind faith in say, Trent Dumont, or our up and coming key defenders which history has proven take time to develop.
 

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Really only Butler resembles Kayne as a player. All of Rioli, Castangna, and Higgins are very different footballers and much more effective forwards. Hell even Butler is statistically superior, and they basically delisted him.

Both Richmond and West Coast demonstrated you can build a forward line around smaller types IF they are able to both pressure, set up scores and hit the scoreboard themselves.

On the other hand, we currently have one small forward, who rates poor for goals, poor for score involvements, average for tackles inside 50, average for forward pressure and average for one percenters.

Imo, he's the embodiment of 'tries hard, not quite good enough'; and we desperately need to upgrade our small forward stocks at this draft.
Kane is one of those players I’m most interested to see how he responds to simpler, clearer roles under Shaw.

Kayne did average about 1.1 goals in his second year and IF he was kicking 25+ goals a year it would be a big difference.

I totally get the frustration with him but I’m keeping an eye to see if Shaw can get the most out of him.
 
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